Re: Challenge-response mail filters considered harmful

From: Alan Connor (alanconnor_at_earthlink.net)
Date: 08/07/03

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    I don't know why CR programs offend some people so much.
    The fact that so many CR opponents are self-styled spamfighters
    poses a conundrum of mind-boggling proportions.

    After all, they are the ONLY systems that actually defeat spam.

    Is it because they will be out of work/hobby when CR systems become more
    popular?

    Or are they, in fact, spammers? (Yes, I know that THEIR Unsolicited Commercial
    Email isnt spam. It's only the OTHER people's UCE that's really spam...)

    It would be quite logical for them to be both of the above. I have often
    thought that it was probably the anti-virus people who are responsible for
    most of the viruses. After all, who knows more about how they work? And who
    would be out of a job if there were no new viruses.

    In fact, sending out viruses is a LOT like sending out spam, isn't it?

    -------------

    I know I am on the right track, because my opponents cannot defend their
    stances while confining themselves to accurate statements and ethical
    rhetoric. Their arguments simply will not stand up to reasonable analysis
    and they know it. So ad hominem attacks, twisted logic, and outright
    dis-information are their only hope.

    It is interesting to watch people dig their own graves....

    Hey! If you don't like CR programs, don't USE them. And if a CR response
    offends you, don't send it back.

    Like DUH.

    There'll be a tarball for MSP available in a week or two. It will install
    on any *nix box with an sh-type shell and the standard utilities. In about
    2 minutes. No eye-candy, just a lean and mean spamblocker that cannot be
    be defeated.

    Cheers,

    Alan 

    -- 
      For Linux/Bash users: Eliminate spam with the Mailbox-Sentry-Program. 
         See: http://tinyurl.com/inpd  for the scripts and docs.
     
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