Re: Debian install fails on Intel P4C800 w/ WD800J drive (but Redhat 9 is ok)

From: Bob Proulx (bob_at_proulx.com)
Date: 08/24/03

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    Murray J. Brown wrote:
    > I've tried to install both Woody 3.0r1 & Sarge (2003-07-27) from an

    It is not clear to me which kernel you are installing by this
    description. For the woody install which kernel did you select? If
    you just hit 'enter' then you got the 2.2 kernel. If you said bf24
    then you got the 2.4 kernel. I have seen the 2.2 kernel hang when the
    2.4 kernel would install properly.

    > ATAPI CDROM (40x/AKU) onto a PC with a new Intel P4C800 Deluxe
    > motherboard, a 200GB WD Serial ATA drive and a 80GB (WD800JB-00ETA0)
    > drive, but the install process just hangs while probing (or simply
    > loading the ide-mod-probe kernel module) for IDE controllers. At first,
    > I thought it might be the S-ATA support, so I disconnected that drive
    > but the probing still consistently fails at the 33.3% mark while trying
    > to detect the remaining IDE drives, even after trying various
    > permutations of BIOS settings.

    Disconnecting the drive won't disable the controller. Possibly
    disabling the controller in the BIOS would get past this problem.

    > Redhat 9 installs cleanly so I know the hardware works. However, I'd
    > rather use Debian for consistency across all my systems (now that I've
    > eradicated Windoze).

    Obviously most of us on this list would agree with you. :-)

    > Suggestions anyone? Any help will be appreciated.

    Another suggested doing installing KNOPPIX on the hard drive. I
    really like KNOPPIX as a good use of technology. But I have tested
    installing older versions to a hard drive and then trying to upgrade
    them to newer versions of software. It can be a can of worms at that
    time. I can't recommend it unless you are already an expert. As the
    saying goes if you have to ask then you are not one. Note that this
    is not something that Klaus Knopper tried to create when he created
    KNOPPIX. He created the image for himself and released it to others
    because it is really sweet. But getting an image fully up to date can
    be tricky.

    Instead let me suggest something else entire. This is also a little
    complicated. So don't feel obgligated if this does not work out. But
    I would use knoppix to boot a system off of the cdrom and then use
    rsync to copy an existing system which is up to date and has the
    latest kernel onto your hard drive. I suggest this since it sounds
    like you have several machines at your disposal.

    Partition the drive, run mkswap on the swap partition, run mkfs on the
    filesystem, copy the system onto the drive, customize the
    /etc/modules, /etc/hostname, /etc/mailname, /etc/fstab, etc., run lilo
    (or grub) and then boot the system. I find this an easy way to create
    new systems by cloning other ones. I can furnish a complete list of
    files to customize if you need one but I think you get the idea. The
    raw copy of the system onto a new machine takes about six minutes on
    my machines, usually much faster than installing the data as
    packages. But then you spend another 15 minutes editing files to
    change the system over to its new personality.

    That assumes that your only real problem is that you need a newer
    kernel than what exists on your installation media. If you need
    something else than this won't work either.

    Bob 

    


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