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Date: 10/28/03

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    Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 15:28:14 -0500 (EST)
    To: Simon Tod <todsr1@yahoo.co.uk>
    
    

    On Tue, 28 Oct 2003, Simon Tod wrote:

    > After a hdd install from knoppix 3.2 I tried to
    > dist-upgrade to Debian unstable. It all seems to work
    > fine but my debian_version is still reported as
    > testing/unstable.

    you are correct. knoppix is a combination of some testing and some
    unstable packages.

    I've tracked this down to the fact
    > that a number of packages from the hdd install are not
    > at the latest versions available in unstable but are
    > unoffical versions with different dependencies.

    Not sure what you mean. 99 % of the packages are from debian sources. only
    a few are knoppix-specific. but if you upgrade, most of the knoppix
    debs are upgraded or removed IIRC.

    > The most significant being sysvinit.
    >

    something important like this would not get updated very often (1 -2 per
    year) as it has been tested very thoroughly and does not have 'new'
    features.

    > If I try 'apt-get install sysvinit', I'm told I have
    > the latest version installed. Not true.

    apt-get can be setup to install stable, testing or unstable packages. But
    it can be told to exclude packages.
    But if 'apt-get' says its the latest version, it is only telling you based
    on ITS settings.

     The knoppix
    > version is 2.84 something or other, whereas 2.85 is
    > available in unstable.
    >
    > If I try 'apt-get --reinstall install sysvinit', I'm
    > told the packages is not available for download.
    >
    Would do no good is its already installed correctly and you dont need to
    fix a broken install.

    > This is a common problem when trying to replace a
    > package from an unofficial source with an official
    > one. My usual trick is just to remove the offending
    > package, then reinstall from an official source.

    not sure if that is the best way.

    >

    > HOWEVER, sysvinit is a rather crucial package (I
    > think!?) and I'm a little concerned that removing it -
    > even if only to replace it with a different version
    > shortly afterwards - may be dangerous.
    >
    yes is it dangerous as it is a very basic package.

    > Any suggestions as to whether or not this may be a
    > safe thing to do or what alternative approach I could
    > take would be much appreciated...
    >
    > Thanks!

    try this:

    apt-get install -s sysvinit/unstable
    apt-get install -s sysvinit/testing
    apt-get install -s sysvinit/stable

    note the -s means to show what it would do, but dont to it
    for me:
    unstable and testing = 2.85-7
    stable = 2.84-2woody1

    BUT it depends on your /etc/apt/sources.list

    -kev

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