Re: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"
From: Daniel Miller (dmiller_at_amfes.com)
Date: 11/07/03
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Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 14:52:38 -0800 To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Ron Johnson wrote:
>On Fri, 2003-11-07 at 13:20, techlists wrote:
>
>
>>On Thu, 2003-11-06 at 17:52, David Millet wrote:
>>
>>
>>>>>all I have to say is that I personally want linux to rule the desktop,
>>>>>simply because I will stand to make alot of money when big companies
>>>>>start picking it up. a lot of us will, in fact.
>>>>>
>>>>>i'm extremely confident that it will rule the desktop market, because of
>>>>>the speed at which the desktops have improved, which i have been lucky
>>>>>to observe during the past year i've been doing the linux thing. i've
>>>>>seen major improvements, unlike how windows upgrades their operating
>>>>>systems these days. i use winXP at work and haven't seen yet too much
>>>>>of an improvement from win2000. i agree with that guy from red hat.
>>>>>give kde, gnome, etc a few more years to mature and it will be
>>>>>night-night time for the M$ monopoly.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>Not until Broderbund releases a Calendar Creator that works with
>>>>Linux. Ditto for Reader Rabbit, Math Blaster, etc, etc, ad nauseum.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>Or not until wine begins running these and every windoze app that
>>>everyone uses flawlessly, which hopefully happens soon.
>>>
>>>david
>>>
>>>
>>As much as I like Wine, and use it myself for some products, I fear that
>>the wine project may do to linux what win-os/2 did for os/2. If your
>>system will run win32 apps, what insentive do companies have to develop
>>native programs for you.
>>
>>
>
>One difference is that Big Blue bungled the marketing of OS/2 worse
>than DEC did of VMS, and that's saying something.
>
>
>
I must admit I was a bit disappointed in the outcome of OS/2. Not to
get off topic, but credit is due.
My first experience with OS/2 was version 2.0 - attempting to run in on
a 386 with 4M RAM. It didn't run, it didn't even stagger - it crawled.
But it did install, and it did function. This being in the '80's, I
returned my 40+ disks to their package and got a refund from the store
(it wasn't Egghead, I forgot the name).
Then I tried version 2.1 - this time with 8M RAM. There was something a
bit unusual here - the distribution had about half the disks, required
less hard drive space - and ran faster with more features.
This I had Warp version 3.0 - again, smaller distribution, smaller
installation requirements, more features. This was my platform of
choice for running Windoze 3.x applications.
I don't think I've ever seen a better example of programmers taking more
pride in their work and continually refining their code - instead of
just throwing more hardware at a performance problem. I've seen
exceptional programs written from scratch - Q, later TSE comes to mind -
but the level of improvement displayed by OS/2 I haven't seen anywhere
else. If IBM had decided to tackle a Win95 emulator - I think the
market would be bit different today.
Sigh. I guess they already knew whatever undocumented functions they
emulated - Microsoft's next version would just add more.
Oh well. Maybe I need to start scrounging pennies and forwarding my
meager contributions to the Wine effort - being able to eliminate
Windoze while retaining my existing application library is quite appealing.
Daniel
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