Re: network install via dialup?
From: Karsten M. Self (kmself_at_ix.netcom.com)
Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 18:59:49 -0800 To: email@example.com
on Thu, Dec 18, 2003 at 11:26:37AM -0600, James Miller (firstname.lastname@example.org) wrote:
> I'm thinking of recommending Debian to someone who has only a dialin
> connection to the 'net. For various reasons, a network install would be
> the best option for them.
You don't get into the "whys", but I'd be interested.
A CD-based install, an installation from a local apt cache, or an
install from a site with broadband access, would all be significantly
I'm speaking as someone who runs multiple systems behind a 56k dialup.
However I have a full apt-proxy cache of potato + woody distros, and can
run a local installation in a matter of minutes.
Install via dialup is going to take on the order of 8-16 hours for
pulls. Figure 4800 Bps effective for a 56k connection, and 250 MiB for
a relatively minimal install. That's 15 hours of download.
Once you're over the initial hump, installing (and maintaining) packages
isn't too bad -- figure a few hours of connect time nightly. Again,
apt-proxy is a major lifesaver if you've got multiple systems to
> Is it reasonable to expect them to be able to do a network install
> over dialup? I should also explain that this will be a fairly minimal
> system. What I would recommend them to do is to install the base
> system, then XFree (using tasksel) and a lightweight window mgr and
> maybe browser (e.g., Links - maybe Dillo). That's the way the initial
> install would look, in my thinking. Other programs could be added as
> needed, via apt-get. Would this be feasible to do over dialup?
Depends on your phone costs and contention for phone line (family,
> Oh, and I should ask whether the install-base routine can resume
> broken downloads (in case the modem drops the connection or the ISP
> kicks them offline or something)?
Yes, it can. In this regard, apt-get is very nice.
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