Re: dpkg/ucf hang (was: Re: [users] Problem in starting OOo and its reinstallation)

From: Stephen Liu (satimis_at_icare.com.hk)
Date: 12/30/03

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Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2003 01:41:19 +0800

    Hi Derrick,

    Thanks for your advice

    On Tue, 2003-12-30 at 04:43, Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote:

    > | > It hanged there compelling me to close the Koncole window.
    > | I don't doubt it.
    >
    > | > Then I ran;
    > | > # dpkg --configure -a
    > | > Setting up foomatic-filters (3.0.0-20031207-1) ...
    > | > Configuration file `/etc/foomatic/filter.conf'
    > | > ==> File on system created by you or by a script.
    > | > ==> File also in package provided by package maintainer.
    > | > What would you like to do about it ? Your options are:
    > | > Y or I : install the package maintainer's version
    > | > N or O : keep your currently-installed version
    > | > D : show the differences between the versions
    > | > Z : start a new shell to examine the situation
    > | > The default action is to keep your current version.
    > | > *** filter.conf (Y/I/N/O/D/Z) [default=N] ? D/Y/N and <Enter> (I tried all
    > | > of them). It hanged here again.
    >
    > There's a bug, somewhere, that I just discovered last night and this
    > morning.
    >
    > The process (in my case it was 'ucf' for both packages) gets stuck in
    > the Sleeping state and doesn't receive any keyboard input.
    >
    > I don't know what the bug is, but I do know the two ways I worked around it :
    > a) when ucf hangs, look at the command line parameters using
    > pstree or gnome-system-monitor. run it manually and update
    > the config file so that ucf/dpkg doesn't detect a difference
    > and doesn't prompt you
    >
    > b) edit /var/lib/dpkg/info/PKG.postinst to remove the invocation
    > of ucf on the config file that is different and you don't want
    > changed anyways
    >
    > Of course, the applicability of these workarounds depends on what the
    > config file is, what you want to do with it, and how the package is
    > organized.
    >
    >
    > Based on Stephen's description, I think the following programs are not
    > to blame :
    > aptitude, xterm, dselect, konsole
    > but these haven't been ruled out :
    > dpkg, ucf
    > I know that running ucf manually does not reveal the issue.

    I also received advice from other lists (not OOo) that some folks there
    also met this problem same as mind. They are still searching hard for a
    solution.

    > PS. Stephen: sometimes things don't work quite right when running
    > unstable. I recommend not running unstable unless :
    > 1) you know what you are doing and how debian is organized
    > (and can debug and workaround such issues yourself)
    > or
    > 2) the system isn't terribly important and you can leave it
    > in a broken state until someone else fixes the bug
    > or
    > 3) you like learning to swim by jumping in the deep end
    > (see #1)
    > FWIW I run a testing+unstable mix and accept the fact that the
    > latest and greatest sometimes has problems and I can deal with
    > them. It works well for me.

    I make this test on Debian in anticipation of learning its technology.
    I used 'Sarge-net-installation' because in my idea it will bring me the
    up-to-date Debian OS similar to as I did in installing Gentoo 1.4
    previously. But I met with several problems. With the assistance of
    folks on this list I have overcome all of them. But the problem here
    seems having no end. Now after upgrade Kmail can't send mail but can
    receive mails. It looks to me a little bid funny.

    I am prepared to remove this box soon after hearing some more
    suggestions of remedy on existing problems because I expect to learn
    through making mistake. Thereafter I will reinstall Debian 3.0 from CDs
    to continue my exploration on Debian

    Anyway thanks again.

    B.R.
    Stephen 

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