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Date: 04/08/04

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    Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2004 11:42:38 +0100
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    debian-user-digest-request@lists.debian.org wrote:

    >
    > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
    >
    >
    > debian-user-digest Digest Volume 2004 : Issue 1168
    >
    > Today's Topics:
    > SQL Help [ "Saqib Qureshi" <msaqibqureshi@hotm ]
    > Re: AMD vs. Intel [ martin f krafft <madduck@debian.org ]
    > Re: AMD vs. Intel [ martin f krafft <madduck@debian.org ]
    > =?Windows-1251?B?Is3l6u7j5OAg8u7r8fL [ Olga <danz@iwoman.ru> ]
    > Re: no sound with 2.6.3, nForce2, an [ "Jim Woodward" <jimwoodward1937@ade ]
    > Re: upgrade broken (Testing) for 10 [ Uwe Dippel <udippel@uniten.edu.my> ]
    > Alsa seems to be working, but no sou [ martin f krafft <madduck@debian.org ]
    > Re: ALSA problems sarge 2.4.25 [ "Jim Woodward" <jimwoodward1937@ade ]
    > Re: AMD vs. Intel [ Hans du Plooy <hansdp@newingtoncs.c ]
    >
    >
    > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
    >
    > Subject:
    > SQL Help
    > From:
    > "Saqib Qureshi" <msaqibqureshi@hotmail.com>
    > Date:
    > Thu, 08 Apr 2004 09:15:46 +0000
    > To:
    > debian-user@lists.debian.org
    >
    >
    > Hello
    > please guide me........
    > this is matter....
    >
    > select a.zon, b.astyer, count(a.ntn)
    > from ztrmtrext a, rtnmtr b
    > where
    > a.ntn = b.ntn and b.astdat is null
    > and astyer='2003'
    > group by a.zon,b.astyer
    >
    > select a.zon, b.astyer, count(a.ntn)
    > from ztrmtrext a, rtnmtr b
    > where
    > a.ntn = b.ntn and b.astdat is null
    > and astyer='2002'
    > group by a.zon,b.astyer
    >
    > this is query.
    > but actually i want to fatch each year record in a separate variable and
    > in a single query how it is possible.
    >
    > _________________________________________________________________
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    > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
    >
    > Subject:
    > Re: AMD vs. Intel
    > From:
    > martin f krafft <madduck@debian.org>
    > Date:
    > Thu, 8 Apr 2004 12:03:48 +0200
    > To:
    > debian users <debian-user@lists.debian.org>, debian-laptop@lists.debian.org
    >
    >
    > I wasn't the one initiating the cross-post. Don't shoot me.
    >
    > also sprach Antony Gelberg <antony@antgel.co.uk> [2004.04.08.0155 +0200]:
    >
    >>Just to throw some weight behind this, this solution has worked
    >>for me on several Athlon / nForce servers I've built. I just
    >>removed APIC from the kernel completely.
    >
    >
    > How? In 2.6 kernels I can't find an option...
    >
    >
    >
    > also sprach Paul Johnson <baloo@ursine.ca> [2004.04.08.0244 +0200]:
    >
    >>That's why you should run from the battery until it runs down at least
    >>once a week or so
    >
    >
    > I believe this is wrong. Lithium-Ion Batteries actually suffer from
    > complete discharge cycles.
    >
    >
    >>or remove the battery entirely in a half-charge state and store it
    >>(just remember to charge it back up before using again).
    >
    >
    > Yes, this is the best way.
    >
    >
    >
    > also sprach Katipo <katipo@weavers-web.org> [2004.04.08.0332 +0200]:
    >
    >>and that only briefly for things such as a monitor install.
    >
    >
    > Why do you need to take a machine down for a monitor install? Do you
    > take it down when you change the network cable too?
    >
    >
    >
    > also sprach Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <hmh@debian.org> [2004.04.08.0630 +0200]:
    >
    >>Anything that gets the processor to "keep itself cool" while going
    >>from idle to almost-full-power as a crazed rabbit will *** the
    >>entire system much sooner, and reduce the stability too.
    >
    >
    > What? So cooling is bad?
    >
    >
    >
    > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
    >
    > Subject:
    > Re: AMD vs. Intel
    > From:
    > martin f krafft <madduck@debian.org>
    > Date:
    > Thu, 8 Apr 2004 12:08:43 +0200
    > To:
    > debian users <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
    >
    >
    > also sprach Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <hmh@debian.org> [2004.04.08.0108 +0200]:
    >
    >>No. It is a machine totally dead, CPU won't even NMI, soundboard
    >>will keep looping whatever is in its buffer kind of bug. Probably
    >>a northbridge issue.
    >
    >
    > What's NMI?
    >
    >
    >>Try to make sure you don't have external PCI cards sharing IRQs
    >>with the internal devices, and see if that improve things.
    >
    >
    > If only I'd know how to assign IRQs. Ever since they don't give us
    > jumpers for that anymore, I have been a software junky and my
    > knowledge about hardware has decreased logarithmically.
    >
    >
    >>Enable the LAPIC NMI watchdog, and see if that causes better (or
    >>worse behaviour). Try it with the IOAPIC NMI watchdog as well.
    >
    >
    > Do I have to patch that into 2.6.5?
    >
    >
    >>But really, before you do *anything*, get memtest86+ and do
    >>a 24-hour burn-in test in the "extended" mode.
    >
    >
    > Okay.
    >
    >
    >
    > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
    >
    > Subject:
    > "??????? ??????? ??????? ???? ????????!"
    > From:
    > Olga <danz@iwoman.ru>
    > Date:
    > Thu, 08 Apr 2004 09:36:54 +0000
    > To:
    > debian-user@lists.debian.org
    >
    >
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    >
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    >
    >
    > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
    >
    > Subject:
    > Re: no sound with 2.6.3, nForce2, and ALSA
    > From:
    > "Jim Woodward" <jimwoodward1937@adelphia.net>
    > Date:
    > Thu, 8 Apr 2004 05:46:30 -0400
    > To:
    > debian-user@lists.debian.org
    >
    >
    > "Tom Schutter" <t.schutter@att.net> wrote in message
    > news:1IzuD-c4-5@gated-at.bofh.it...
    >
    >>I am having no luck getting sound to work. I have a ASUS A7N8X
    >>motherboard with the NVIDIA nForce2 chipset. I am running the 2.6.3
    >>kernel on sarge.
    >>
    >>I am getting no sound at all. If I play a .wav file using aplay, it
    >>pauses for a few seconds and then returns to a command prompt.
    >>
    >>I have tried different cables and speakers with no luck.
    >>
    >>Any help would be appreciated!
    >>
    >>$ uname -a
    >>Linux pixel 2.6.3-1-k7 #2 Tue Feb 24 20:39:50 EST 2004 i686 GNU/Linux
    >>
    >>$ dmesg | grep intel8x0
    >>intel8x0_measure_ac97_clock: measured 49228 usecs
    >>intel8x0: clocking to 47417
    >>
    >>$ cat /proc/asound/cards
    >>0 [nForce2 ]: NFORCE - NVidia nForce2
    >> NVidia nForce2 at 0xe9000000, irq 21
    >>
    >>$ cat /proc/asound/modules
    >>0 snd_intel8x0
    >>
    >>$ cat /proc/asound/card0/intel8x0
    >>Intel8x0
    >>
    >>Global control : 0x00000002
    >>Global status : 0x00300100
    >>AC'97 codecs ready : primary
    >>
    >>$ cat /proc/asound/version
    >>Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.2c (Thu Feb 05
    >>15:41:49 2004 UTC).
    >>Compiled on Feb 21 2004 for kernel 2.6.3-1-k7.
    >>
    >>$ lsmod | grep snd
    >>snd_seq_oss 34624 0
    >>snd_seq_midi_event 7936 1 snd_seq_oss
    >>snd_seq 55312 4 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_event
    >>snd_pcm_oss 53732 0
    >>snd_mixer_oss 19840 2 snd_pcm_oss
    >>snd_intel8x0 34088 2
    >>snd_ac97_codec 62724 1 snd_intel8x0
    >>snd_pcm 100196 2 snd_pcm_oss,snd_intel8x0
    >>snd_timer 25924 2 snd_seq,snd_pcm
    >>gameport 4736 1 snd_intel8x0
    >>snd_page_alloc 12164 2 snd_intel8x0,snd_pcm
    >>snd_mpu401_uart 7872 1 snd_intel8x0
    >>snd_rawmidi 25120 1 snd_mpu401_uart
    >>snd_seq_device 8136 3 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,snd_rawmidi
    >>snd 55780 13
    >>
    >
    > snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_event,snd_seq,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_intel8x
    > 0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_mpu401_uart,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_devic
    > e
    >
    >>soundcore 10272 2 snd
    >>
    >>$ amixer sget Line
    >>Simple mixer control 'Line',0
    >> Capabilities: pvolume pswitch pswitch-joined cswitch cswitch-joined
    >>cswitch-exclusive
    >> Capture exclusive group: 0
    >> Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
    >> Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right
    >> Limits: Playback 0 - 31
    >> Front Left: Playback 29 [94%] [on] Capture [off]
    >> Front Right: Playback 30 [97%] [on] Capture [off]
    >>
    >>$ ls -l /dev/audio0 /dev/dsp0 /dev/mixer0
    >>crw-rw---- 1 root audio 14, 4 Jul 26 2003 /dev/audio0
    >>crw-rw---- 1 root audio 14, 3 Jul 26 2003 /dev/dsp0
    >>crw-rw---- 1 root audio 14, 0 Jul 26 2003 /dev/mixer0
    >>
    >>$ groups
    >>tom tape audio users
    >>
    >>
    >
    > Can u get sounds when logged on as root? If so, then it is most likely a
    > 'permissions' problem.
    > Otherwise I suggest you run xmms in a terminal and try to play something.
    > Look at the error written in the terminal.
    > Good luck!
    >
    >>--
    >>To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST@lists.debian.org
    >>with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact
    >
    > listmaster@lists.debian.org
    >
    >
    > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
    >
    > Subject:
    > Re: upgrade broken (Testing) for 10 days - libxrender
    > From:
    > Uwe Dippel <udippel@uniten.edu.my>
    > Date:
    > Thu, 08 Apr 2004 17:56:16 +0800
    > To:
    > debian-user@lists.debian.org
    >
    >
    > On Thu, 08 Apr 2004 11:30:17 +0200, Sebastiaan wrote:
    >
    >
    >>a apt-get dist-upgrade is usually recommended since it also
    >>installs/removes packages when the distribution changes. Try that first,
    >>see if the problem remains.
    >
    >
    > # apt-get dist-upgrade
    > Reading Package Lists... Done
    > Building Dependency Tree... Done
    > You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these.
    > The following packages have unmet dependencies:
    > libxaw7-dev: Depends: x-dev but it is not installed
    > Depends: libxmu-dev but it is not installed
    > Depends: libxt-dev but it is not installed
    > Depends: libsm-dev but it is not installed
    > Depends: libice-dev but it is not installed
    > Depends: libxext-dev but it is not installed
    > Depends: libx11-dev but it is not installed
    > Depends: libxpm-dev but it is not installed
    > libxrender-dev: Depends: libxrender1 (= 0.8.3-5) but 0.8.3-7 is installed
    > E: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f.
    >
    > Back at square one. Am I really the only user with this trouble ?? What
    > went wrong; I don't remember having clicked or selected anything
    > particular. ?
    >
    >
    > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
    >
    > Subject:
    > Alsa seems to be working, but no sound
    > From:
    > martin f krafft <madduck@debian.org>
    > Date:
    > Thu, 8 Apr 2004 12:35:43 +0200
    > To:
    > debian users <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
    >
    >
    > Hi there,
    >
    > With two systems, one very new and one ancient system, both running
    > 2.6.x, I am experiencing a weird Alsa-related problem. Also is
    > running and the modules are properly loaded. The kernel logs
    > successful initialisation of the modules, and that it found the
    > respective soundcards, and when I play sound, it seems that all is
    > working. There are no errors, xmms plays just fine via tha Alsa
    > output device.
    >
    > However, there is no sound. I have used alsamixer and pushed every
    > channel to 100% volume, but there is not a single tone that emerges
    > from the speakers, connected to Line Out.
    >
    > I am puzzled. What can be the cause of this?
    >
    > Thanks,
    >
    >
    >
    > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
    >
    > Subject:
    > Re: ALSA problems sarge 2.4.25
    > From:
    > "Jim Woodward" <jimwoodward1937@adelphia.net>
    > Date:
    > Thu, 8 Apr 2004 05:56:31 -0400
    > To:
    > debian-user@lists.debian.org
    >
    >
    > <lebbatdot@cogeco.ca> wrote in message news:1HYOD-4tA-3@gated-at.bofh.it...
    >
    >>ALl
    >>I have been trying to get ALSA working on my admitadly old IBM 300PL for
    >>the last while. Extensive Googling and several kernel recompiles later
    >>I think I am in reverse!
    >>I am running sarge kernel version 2.4.25
    >>Here is the output of aadebug from the ALSA website
    >>
    >>sarge:~# ./aadebug
    >>ALSA Audio Debug v0.0.7 - Tue Apr 6 09:40:04 EDT 2004
    >>http://alsa.opensrc.org/?aadebug
    >>
    >>Kernel ----------------------------------------------------
    >>Linux sarge 2.4.25alsa3 #1 Mon Apr 5 22:57:41 EDT 2004 i586 GNU/Linux
    >>
    >>Loaded Modules --------------------------------------------
    >>snd 34276 0
    >>
    >>Modules Conf ----------------------------------------------
    >>alias char-major-116 snd
    >>alias char-major-14 soundcore
    >>options snd major=116 cards_limit=4
    >>alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss
    >>alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss
    >>alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss
    >>alias sound-service-0-8 snd-seq-oss
    >>alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-oss
    >>alias /dev/dsp* snd-pcm-oss
    >>alias snd-card-0 snd-cs46xx
    >>alias snd-card-1 snd-ens1370
    >>alias snd-slot-0 snd-card-0
    >>alias sound-slot-0 snd-slot-0
    >>alias snd-slot-1 snd-card-1
    >>alias sound-slot-1 snd-slot-1
    >>
    >>Proc Asound -----------------------------------------------
    >>Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.3.
    >>Compiled on Apr 6 2004 for kernel 2.4.25alsa3 with versioned symbols.
    >>--- no soundcards ---
    >>cat: /proc/asound/hwdep: No such file or directory
    >>cat: /proc/asound/pcm: No such file or directory
    >>
    >>Dev Snd ---------------------------------------------------
    >>controlC0 hwC1D2 midiC0D0 midiC1D2 midiC2D4 midiC3D6 pcmC0D3p
    >>pcmC1D0p pcmC1D5p pcmC2D2p pcmC2D7p pcmC3D4p
    >>controlC1 hwC1D3 midiC0D1 midiC1D3 midiC2D5 midiC3D7 pcmC0D4c
    >>pcmC1D1c pcmC1D6c pcmC2D3c pcmC3D0c pcmC3D5c
    >>controlC2 hwC2D0 midiC0D2 midiC1D4 midiC2D6 pcmC0D0 pcmC0D4p
    >>pcmC1D1p pcmC1D6p pcmC2D3p pcmC3D0p pcmC3D5p
    >>controlC3 hwC2D1 midiC0D3 midiC1D5 midiC2D7 pcmC0D0c pcmC0D5c
    >>pcmC1D2c pcmC1D7c pcmC2D4c pcmC3D1c pcmC3D6c
    >>hwC0D0 hwC2D2 midiC0D4 midiC1D6 midiC3D0 pcmC0D0p pcmC0D5p
    >>pcmC1D2p pcmC1D7p pcmC2D4p pcmC3D1p pcmC3D6p
    >>hwC0D1 hwC2D3 midiC0D5 midiC1D7 midiC3D1 pcmC0D1c pcmC0D6c
    >>pcmC1D3c pcmC2D0c pcmC2D5c pcmC3D2c pcmC3D7c
    >>hwC0D2 hwC3D0 midiC0D6 midiC2D0 midiC3D2 pcmC0D1p pcmC0D6p
    >>pcmC1D3p pcmC2D0p pcmC2D5p pcmC3D2p pcmC3D7p
    >>hwC0D3 hwC3D1 midiC0D7 midiC2D1 midiC3D3 pcmC0D2c pcmC0D7c
    >>pcmC1D4c pcmC2D1c pcmC2D6c pcmC3D3c seq
    >>hwC1D0 hwC3D2 midiC1D0 midiC2D2 midiC3D4 pcmC0D2p pcmC0D7p
    >>pcmC1D4p pcmC2D1p pcmC2D6p pcmC3D3p timer
    >>hwC1D1 hwC3D3 midiC1D1 midiC2D3 midiC3D5 pcmC0D3c pcmC1D0c
    >>pcmC1D5c pcmC2D2c pcmC2D7c pcmC3D4c
    >>
    >>CPU -------------------------------------------------------
    >>model name : Pentium MMX
    >>cpu MHz : 199.435
    >>
    >>RAM -------------------------------------------------------
    >>MemTotal: 62080 kB
    >>SwapTotal: 243892 kB
    >>
    >>Hardware --------------------------------------------------
    >>00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 430HX - 82439HX TXC [Triton II] (rev
    >>03)
    >>00:0d.0 Multimedia audio controller: Ensoniq ES1370 [AudioPCI] (rev 01)
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>A little histoy
    >>
    >>I tried to get the onboard CS chip working, the kernel recognised it and
    >>all seemed well, but no sound.
    >>
    >>I then installed a cheap soundblaster card
    >>
    >>now when I try a dpkg -i on the alsa deb I get
    >>
    >>sarge:/usr/src# dpkg -D2000 -i
    >>alsa-modules-2.4.25alsa3_1.0.3-1+custom3_i386.deb
    >>(Reading database ... 37622 files and directories currently installed.)
    >>Preparing to replace alsa-modules-2.4.25alsa3 1.0.3-1+custom3 (using
    >>alsa-modules-2.4.25alsa3_1.0.3-1+custom3_i386.deb) ...
    >>Unpacking replacement alsa-modules-2.4.25alsa3 ...
    >>D002000: process_archive info this pkg
    >>D002000: process_archive info this pkg
    >>D002000: process_archive info this pkg
    >>D002000: process_archive info this pkg
    >>Setting up alsa-modules-2.4.25alsa3 (1.0.3-1+custom3) ...
    >>Configuration file for ALSA 1.0 exists.
    >>Attempting to start.
    >>
    >>Storing ALSA mixer settings ... failed
    >>Shutting down ALSA (version 1.0.3): done.
    >>Starting ALSA (version 1.0.3): cs46xx-failed ens1370-failed failed
    >>
    >>Note the lack of information?
    >>
    >>The log traces are similarily not very verbose
    >>
    >>ANy ideas on what to try next?
    >>
    >>
    >>Help appreciated
    >>
    >>Brian
    >>
    >>
    >
    >
    > Have you tried a 2.6.x kernel? It is designed to work with ALSA.
    >
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    > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
    >
    > Subject:
    > Re: AMD vs. Intel
    > From:
    > Hans du Plooy <hansdp@newingtoncs.co.za>
    > Date:
    > Thu, 8 Apr 2004 12:14:21 +0200
    > To:
    > debian-user@lists.debian.org
    >
    >
    > On Thursday 08 April 2004 03:52, Christian Schnobrich wrote:
    >
    >>>/rant on
    >>>
    >>>I should have said this in my first reply. It's common knowedge that AMD
    >>>based systems has, compared to Intel based systems, a reputation of
    >>>sometimes being unstable. No one ever bothers to explain why.
    >>
    >>[...]
    >>
    >>The same sources as above (hearsay alarm!) suggested not actually the
    >>CPU as a reason, but rather the policy regarding boards.
    >
    > That was exactly my point. The fact that there are AMD based machines out
    > there that run stably under heavy load for months on end, means that the
    > chips must be OK.
    >
    > My machine at home is a 2400+ AthlonXP which runs on a VIA KT133A chipset -
    > which I wouldn't describe as the best chipset ever for Athlons. BUT: It's a
    > Gigabyte board, which I would like to believe is good product. I've had it
    > for a year and a half. It runs Setiathome, acts as a gateway and mailserver,
    > squid proxy and a host of other things that puts strain on resources. I've
    > only ever had to restart this machine when I added hardware, it's never been
    > unstable for a second.
    >
    > 

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