Debian has turned unusable.

From: Trollcollect (trollcollect_at_yahoo.de)
Date: 04/12/04

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    Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 19:54:23 +0200 (CEST)
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org

    Hello list,

    after 3 days of twiddling with a "recent" copy of
    debians woody release i need to vent a bit of the
    anger and frustration that this distribution has
    caused.

    I want to start with saying that i was a strong
    advocate of debian compared to distributions such as
    RedHat and SuSE. Being a UNIX admin professionally
    (Solaris mainly), i felt home on a debian system
    pretty quick, and the packaging method was unique
    among all linux deriatives i have seen. Also i used to
    like debians approach of stability before
    bleeding-edge stuff.

    However as i have to install a small network now (7
    WS's and one server), i have to reconsider this
    assessment. I downloaded woody (2 failed attempts to
    get an installation CD with the new jigdo method).
    What i got after installation was
    - a 2.2 Kernel without ext3 support
    - a KDE 2.0
    overall totally outdated and useless versions of
    libraries and software.

    I then tried to figure out how to update those
    packages i need in recent versions. As i know KDE from
    Solaris, i trust enough in their own QA procedure to
    consider their 3.2.1 stable enough for usage. Why
    debian believes KDE 2.0 is more stable, or even usable
    at all, is beyond my understanding.

    However it turned out that i could not update only
    selected packages easily. In fact neither of dselect
    or apt-get seemed to have a method to do this in a
    sensible way.

    Now it MAY well be that i am just an idiot who is not
    capable of doing this, however i asked in a few linux
    related channels and also at work, noone could tell me
    how to set up a half-way decent debian without
    compromising the pkg system. Sure many told me to
    build it all by hand but then, without the packaging
    system what good is debian?

    I hope that whoever is responsible for the direction
    debian is steering to currently thinks about the
    target of the whole distribution, which is to provide
    users with a decent linux system that comes stable,
    yet with all neccessary parts to be competetive among
    other distributions.

            
                    
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