Re: Massive increase of spam on debian-*@l.d.o

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Date: 05/05/04

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Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 09:45:30 -0700

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    In article <1SrFy-6Lt-23@gated-at.bofh.it>, Adam Funk wrote:
    > On Wednesday 05 May 2004 09:20, Paul Johnson wrote:
    >
    >> William Ballard <40414.nospam@comcast.net> writes:
    >>
    >>> What steps are being taken to mitigate the significant increase in
    >>> spam getting through to the lists?
    >>
    >> I'm reporting the spam. What are you doing to help, or are you
    >> content to only bitch instead of take action?
    >
    > What reporting system do you use? (I use SpamCop.)

    That's too bad. Most well-run ISPs ignore Spamcop reports.
    Too many false positives.

    > Do you think it really makes a difference? (I don't know)

    Over 90% of the spam I'm getting/blocking is relayed through
    trojaned PCs on residential broadband. If the top five
    cable modem and "DSL" providers would close outbound port 25
    except to their own customer servers, the problem would
    be mostly solved. It is my impression that these five
    providers (Comcast, SBC, Verizon, Adelphia, Telefonica...)
    now ignore all complaints. Nothing will happen until they
    are widely blocked. Not just their customer relays but
    corporate headquarters, too. Complaining used to work,
    and it still does for the smaller providers. But there is
    simply nobody home at Comcast to look at abuse@comcast.net.

    Over 90% of the spam I'm getting/blocking promotes Web
    pages in China or South Korea, or on trojaned cable modem PCs
    in Brazil. It is my impression that the huge quasi-
    governmental ISPs in those countries are paying lip service
    to the problem now, but aren't actually doing anything.
    I believe it's because their admins aren't paid a living wage,
    and get by on cash under the table from spammers and other
    criminals. Nothing will happen until they are widely blocked.
    Complaining to Chinanet Guangdong Province is not effective,
    and it doesn't matter if you congratulate the IP contacts
    for their support of the Falun Gong and Free Tibet.
    They're onto that.

    So, get your ISP and employer's network to subscribe
    their MTA to sbl.spamhaus.org or switch to one that does.
    Block 24.0.0.0/8 and tell the Road Runner users to use a
    real ISP if they care about their email getting through.
    Complaining isn't enough, we have to shun the black-hats.

    Cameron 

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