Re: Anyone do DV editing (Kino and Cinelerra)?

From: H. S. (greatexcalibur_at_yahoo.com)
Date: 07/07/04

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Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2004 14:48:10 -0400

    Apparently, _Bill Moseley_, on 07/06/04 15:00,typed:
    > Ok, I'm playing with Kino -- works reasonably well, although segfaults
    > when trying to control my Sony camera where dvgrab and gscanbus work
    > fine at running the camera. Now I want to try Cinelerra.

    I am also just started using Kino ( 0.71-2 ) on Testing, running
    2.4.26-1-686. I am able to control my Sony TRV25 and also capture the
    video. I haven't experience any seg faults yet.

    > Can someone explain a bit about capturing. I found what seems like an
    > old tutorial at <http://www.robfisher.net/video/kino.html> says to use
    > dvutils (dv2mov and dvmov2dv) to move between formats.

    What I did was:
    1) Connect the camera with firewire cord.

    2) made sure all modules were loaded (for some reason, I have to load
    video1394 myserlf):
      /sbin/lsmod | grep 1394
    dv1394 18832 0 (unused)
    video1394 12628 0 (unused)
    ohci1394 25744 0 [dv1394 video1394]
    raw1394 18584 0 (autoclean)
    ieee1394 186628 0 (autoclean) [dv1394 video1394 ohci1394
    raw1394]

    3) Put the camcorder in VCR mode.

    4) Choose to capture in Quicktime video mode

    5) "Play" the VCR (from remote or camcorder, from Kino seems to give
    problems) and press "Capture" in Kino.

    The capture continues and when you are done, you will have .mov files of
    your scenes in the place you specified in your Kino preferences.

    I can explain more if you have specific question regarding these operatins.

    > I've found the dvutils in source at:
    >
    > http://www.singingwizard.org/programming.html
    >
    > But that page says the utils are deprecated in favor of using Kino
    > directly.

    Yes, Kino directly seems to be working fine as far as I can say.

    > Ok, so I can use kino or dvgrab --format qt to export to .mov, BUT
    > there's no audio. dbgrap reports:
    >
    > quicktime_encode_audio_stub called

    I get this too but I am not sure what this means. Here is my sample:
    quicktime_delete_acodec_stub called
    quicktime_delete_vcodec_stub called
    quicktime_delete_acodec_stub called
    quicktime_delete_vcodec_stub called
    quicktime_delete_acodec_stub called
    quicktime_delete_vcodec_stub called
    quicktime_delete_acodec_stub called

    The real step I am having problems is to exporting from Kino to DVD
    format as mpeg file.

    > so it looks like I can encode the video, but not the audio.
    >
    > Any idea what's needed to get the audio? Does dvgrab need to be
    > recomplied and linked with a library that will encode the audio?

    Can't help you there, I myself am looking for details.

    > dvgrab:
    > Installed: 1.5deb-2
    > Candidate: 1.5deb-2
    > Version Table:
    > *** 1.5deb-2 0
    > 500 http://http.us.debian.org unstable/main Packages
    > 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
    >
    > By the way -- any pointers to tutorials would be great. I'm also
    > curious about the difference between the raw1394 and the dv1394
    > drivers (and when to use each).

    There was a post a couple of days ago about home movies and DVD burning.
    But apart from that I am afraid it looks as though not many Debian users
    are interested in this kind of thing. I haven't got many responses to
    related queries. From what I can see, this mailing list (or gmane
    newsgroup) is more greared towards the internal working of Debian, unix
    or linux commands and their working, Debian constitution, etc. and not
    towards these kind of applications (video audio editing) that perhaps
    are relatively new entrants to Linux (as opposed too say cp or dd
    commands). A better bet would be perhaps to read the cinelerra and kino
    mailing lists directly. I post here in the hope that someone maybe
    interested in these things or my post maybe, just maybe, would be
    helpful to someone else.

    Good luck,
    ->HS 

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