Re: flash and mozilla (and firefox and epiphany)

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Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 11:05:34 -0700
To: Debian Users <debian-user@lists.debian.org>

->>In response to your message<<-
  --received from Jacob S.--
>
> On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 20:20:20 -0400
> Ralph Katz <ralph.katz@rcn.com> wrote:
>
> > On 07/20/04 18:40, Paul Yeatman wrote:
> >
> > > I'm fairly sure the system is using esd with OSS drivers so this
> > > could be the difference. Well, actually, how do I confirm OSS
> > > drivers?
> >
> > While I'm no expert, I can see mine here on this stock kernel:
> >
> > ~$ grep -i oss /boot/config-2.4.25-1-686
> > CONFIG_CHR_DEV_OSST=m
> > CONFIG_SOUND_OSS=m
> >
> > Just substitute your kernel image config filename.
>
> If you didn't install/compile alsa, and you're not using a 2.6 kernel,
> you can pretty much guarantee you're using OSS drivers.
>
> > > I have no idea what 'esdctl unlock' does but I did as you said (got
> > > a series of increasing pitch tones when I ran 'esd &') but
> > > got the same result: xmms et al. work fine, while the browser,
> > > trying to employ the flash plugin, incurably freezes.
>
> esdctl unlock allows foreign clients to use esd, according to
> /usr/share/doc/esound/html/x119.html.
>
> > My flashplayer finally works w/ sound if I killall esd before visiting
> > a flash-animated web page. The freezes are more rare. But I do not
> > hear any sounds from other sources (gaim, for ex.) while the flash
> > animation is playing, even with 'esdctl unlock'.
>
> These symptoms are why I thought esdctl unlock might help. Evideintly I
> was wrong though.
>
> > See the thread and my post of July 13 Subject: Re: Still no sound in
> > Flash for more info.
> >
> > Bottom line, it doesn't look like an issue of oss vs. alsa.
>
> Right. I tried to avoid saying it was an issue of the drivers, but must
> not have done a good enough job. I was running Woody with OSS drivers,
> then upgraded to Sarge with OSS drivers and am now using Sarge with
> Alsa drivers. In all 3 configurations, I have been able to hear sounds
> from xmms, gaim & flash animations at the same time using esd.

That's really amazing. It's good to know though so I don't waste
a bunch of time trying different sound configs and kernel versions
to only get the same result. Could the difference be the sound card
itself?

>
> > Oh, esd -nobeeps will be easier on your ears!
>
> True. I prefer hearing that esd did really start and can talk to the
> sound card properly, rather than just thinking it started properly and
> seeing that there's some kind of esd thing running when I do ps ax. So,
> I usually leave off the -nobeeps. Just my preference.
>
> I'm afraid I'm running out of ideas. I don't know of any way to
> configure where flash outputs sound, or I would think that would be it.

No kidding. Really strange. Yes, looking for some kind of output
driver selection from within Flash was my first thought in solving
things. No such configuration option found, however.

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