Re: unicode input in X apps: how to?

From: Tony Harlequin (gnuruandstuff_at_yahoo.co.uk)
Date: 09/30/04

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To: James Miller <jamtat@mailsnare.net>, debian-user@lists.debian.org

     --- James Miller <jamtat@mailsnare.net> wrote:
    > Thanks for responding, Tony. I did manage to find
    > out about, and
    > experiment with xsetkbmap. It does, in fact, allow
    > me to enter text in
    > Russian into OOo like you say. I'm delighted with
    > that.

    Terrific! Glad to be of service!

    > However, it
    > makes it impossible to type anything into the xterm
    > (guess there's no
    > Cyrillic font for it to show?).

    Yes, OO is very good at managing the fonts itself, for
    xterm - note that if you want to use unicode you need
    to use a term that understands unicode - uxterm is the
    one.

    Then you'll need the cyrillic fonts, I don't use
    cyrillic myself, but try searching for cyrillic fonts
    and install:

    apt-get install xfonts-efont-unicode
    apt-get install xfonts-efont-unicode-ib

    I'm not 100% that that will do the trick, as I say, I
    don't use cyrillic myself.

    But I was able to
    > back out of that by
    > cutting and pasting "xsetkbmap us." Problem now is
    > how to get a different
    > keyboard layout. "xsetkbmap ru" gets the
    > traditional Russian layout,
    > whereas I am used to the phonetic one. I've
    > searched a bit on layouts to
    > see if I could discover a name for a phonetic
    > Russian keyboard layout, but
    > thus far without success: any suggestions on finding
    > where their names
    > might be listed?

    Again I don't use cyrillic so I can only give you a
    few pointers. Emacs lists the following possible
    names for cyrillic keyboards:

    cyrillic-beylorussian
    cyrillic-jcuken
    cyrillic-jis-russian
    cyrillic-macedonian
    cyrillic-serbian
    cyrillic-translit cyrillic-translit-bulgarian
    cyrillic-ukrainian
    cyrillic-yawerty

    I'm not sure that will help (I know my girlfriend
    likes cyrillic-yawerty for her Russian homework :) )

    As for X the keyboards, they are all in /etc/X11/xkbd

    The ones I have listed are ru, ge_ru and ru_yawerty.
    You might find more if you do apt-cache search.

    Also, it seems that if you use the Gnome desktop all
    this keyboard switching is easier, me I use
    WindowMaker.

    Hope that helps

    By the way, I don't understand
    > this key sequence from
    > your reply: "AltGr+." Can you explain which
    > keyboard keys you're talking
    > about? I know alt, of course, but what is "Gr"?
    > And + is simply shift,
    > then the equals (=) key? Thanks again. I do feel
    > as though I'm making at
    > least some progress.
    >

    Yes, sorry AltGr is the "right alt key", it's called
    AltGr on many keyboards and Alt on others. "+" isn't
    anything -it means "while holding down this key".

    So, on my gb keyboard if I press the right alt key
    hold it down press ';' and then press e I get é - e
    with an acute accent.

    > James
    >
    > On Thu, 30 Sep 2004, Tony Harlequin wrote:
    >
    > > --- James Miller <jamtat@mailsnare.net> wrote:
    > > > I can't seem to puzzle out how to input unicode
    > into
    > > > X apps: specifically,
    > > > I need to do this in OpenOffice.org.
    > >
    > > > But I'd
    > > > like to just be able to
    > > > type away at the keyboard in Russian, Greek or
    > > > Tagalog.
    > >
    > > Firstly, Debian has most of the fonts you need,
    > > apt-cache search font will show you.
    > >
    > > Secondly, how you input characters depends on your
    > > keyboard layout. For example AltGr+ : or ' or #
    > might
    > > give acute, cicumflex or grave accents
    > respectively,
    > > like éêè - this works on my gb keyboard layout.
    > >
    > > For other combinations you need different deadkeys
    > or
    > > a different keyboard layout.
    > >
    > > The easiest is to use setxkbmap. For example,
    > doing:
    > >
    > > setxkbmap gb
    > > setxkbmap cz
    > > setxkbmap fr
    > >
    > > will give british, czech and french keyboards
    > > respectively.
    > >
    > > This works very well in all appls that understand
    > > unicode including oo.org, emacs and uxterm.
    > >
    > >
    > >
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