Re: [OT] Debian advocacy for Smart but Scared People With Lives

From: Jim Hall (volunteer_at_revealed.net)
Date: 10/22/04

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    Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 16:15:36 -0500
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org

    William Ballard wrote:
    > On Thu, Oct 21, 2004 at 01:05:04PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote:
    >
    >>Actually, you did (but not deliberately). Knoppix (from at least this
    >>year) gets both up and running automagically. Get them the newest
    >>Knoppix, and next time you're over there to fix their Windows system
    >>again, throw Knoppix in and let them have at it.
    >
    >
    > Not true: neither the soundcard nor the network card were detected
    > automatically. I think his network card was a 3com 3c59x or some
    > permutation of those letters. There's a "common" variety and a "less
    > common" variety. I googled whatever it was plus +debian and found out
    > some completely non-intuitive driver you could substitute for it, and
    > why Knoppix didn't support it out of box. Never could quite figure out
    > what the issue was with Alsa.
    >
    > Of course I could have set there and dinked with it until it worked, but
    > that's what I told them they'd have to do and they don't want to do it.
    >
    > They're still stuck in that "just run setup.exe" from the vendor's
    > website mindset.
    >
    >

    Hardware in Linux is really no different than in Win or Mac. If it's
    made to work with the OS, it will probably just work. If a manufacturer
    intended a product to be Win only, it may be a lot of work (or more than
    it's worth) to get it to work in Linux. More and more hardware is cross
    platform. Will it cost money to replace those cards? Yes. If they don't
    want to (or can't) spend money, then they have the option of spending
    time. The probability of getting hardware to work in Linux is high, even
    if sometimes it's not automatic. That's one of the beautiful things
    about Linux we have going for us. Try getting something to work in
    Windoze when there is no "vendor's website".

    Jim

    PS: Sorry about the double post, I mixed up my replies. 

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