Re: beyond starting x

From: Kent West (
Date: 12/19/04

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    Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 15:52:11 -0600

    cfk wrote:

    >I admit that my experience is with RedHat, so I dont know yet how to change
    >back and forth between a text logon, a kde logon or a gnome logon in Debian.
    >So, I cannot get back to the startx prompt at this time to experiment.
    You can search the Debian archives; this has been covered many times.

    The short version:

    Ctrl-Alt-F[usually 1 - 6] will switch you to a virtual terminal (VT),
    aka a text console. Alt-F7 will (usually) switch you back to X.

    Unless you have a glitchy video system, you can switch to a VT (say,
    Ctrl-Alt-F2 for VT2), and login as a second person, and then start a
    second X session with something like "startx -- :1" (the first X session
    is on display number 0). Then you can switch to VT3 with Ctrl-Alt-F3,
    login as a third person, and then start a third X session with "startx
    -- :2". You can switch back and forth between the X sessions with
    Ctrl-Alt-F7, Ctrl-Alt-F8, and Ctrl-Alt-F9. Add more if you wish. This is
    great for a family computer; Mom can run Gnome; Dad can run Icewm, Baby
    Boy can run KDE, and Baby Girl can run Gnome too, just like Mommie, but
    without trashing Mommie's files and background wallpaper.

    If you want a different window manager/environment on those other X
    sessions, just create a one-liner .xinitrc file in each user's home
    directory with the name of the wm/e you wish to use. Or feed the wm/e
    name to the startx command as a parameter (I forget the syntax, though,
    so I just use ~/.xinitrc).

    If you want to disable KDM temporarily, there are half a dozen ways of
    doing it; I just put "exit 0" as the first executable line in

    If you want to switch to a different login manager, "dpkg-reconfigure
    xdm" (pick a dm that's not currently the default - that is, if you're
    running KDM, don't reconfigure KDM, but rather xdm or wdm or gdm). Be
    aware you'll need to have these other dm's installed, like "apt-get
    install xdm kdm wdm gdm".

    To remove a login manager, just "apt-get --purge remove kdm" (say, to
    remove KDM).

    This ought to help you get your feet wet.

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    off the table and cracks and fails to work anymore, you can simulate a
    mouse with your numeric keypad. Just press Shift-Numlock to turn the
    simulation on (or off). Then the 5 key is the Click button, / sets 5 to
    be left-click; * sets 5 to be a middle-click, - sets 5 to be a
    right-click; the other number keys move the pointer in the corresponding
    direction; 0 is a click-and-hold; DEL is a release click.

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