Re: Athlon XP and Debian

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Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2005 09:48:10 -0600

Tom Penharston wrote:
> I'm building a very affordable Agnula/DeMuDi machine. I based my
> choices roughtly on recommendations from the Agnula website:
> http://www.agnula.org/Members/charles/hardware/view
>
> The page suggested the Asus A7N8 Delta, and I ended up with the
> A7N8x-E. I just need to get an Athlon XP CPU. Here are some exelent
> benchmarks for Athlon XP CPUs, unfortunately the tests are restricted
> to Windows XP:
> http://www6.tomshardware.com/cpu/20030513/athlon_xp-22.html
>
> Obviously it would be convient to find some Debian benchmarks for
> Athlon. If not Debian, any Linux kernel benchmarks would be
> apprciated. Please direct me to any helpful sites.
>
> All Athlon XP CPUs are relatively affordable in 2005, so you might be
> wondering why I don't simply get the "3200". Well, for one, Tom's
> Hardware says that the Athlon XPs turn into paper tigers at the top of
> the line. (The performance increase is marginal.) Secondly, I noticed
> that the 3200 disapates a lot of heat. This is an audio machine, so
> I'd be happy with a lesser CPU if I could run cooler and quiter.

Interesting. In the affordable category I see that the ASUS A7N8X-E
(which you got), the A7N8X-X and the A7V8X-X at NewEgg cost respectively
$90, $65 and $50. (have not checked eBay) So the first is almost double
the price of the last.

They get the same very high 4/5 customer ratings.

For that difference you get the same Socket A AMD Athlon/Athlon XP/Duron
Processor support, but:

1. In the first 2 cases 400 front side buffer speed, in the last 333.

2. In the first 2 cases nForce2 chipsets, in the last VIA.

3. For the A7N8X-E dualchannel ddr400 RAM, for the second one ddr400
non-ecc unbuffered RAM, for the last one ddr333 non-ecc unbuffered RAM.

4. For the first case Pro-AGP 5 PCI slots and Wi-Fi, the second one 5
PCI slots and the last one 6 PCI slots.

5. Audio for the first 2 is Realtek ALC650 and the last ADI1980.

6. Lan for the first 2 Realtek 8201BL and the last Realtek 10/100.

7. Only the first has onboard SATA/RAID.

I am also in the market for a new mobo+cpu. But I wonder. If you want
onboard SATA/RAID and WiFi the choice is clear. But what is the real
difference running Sarge in a non-gaming environment between
fsb400+ddr400 and fsb333+ddr333 (no LAN, no SATA, no RAID) if you use
the same CPU?

And how much does the audio difference depend upon the speakers?

I run (Backstreet) Ruby: 2 monitors/videocards/keyboards/mice on 1 PC
and I am convinced 2.4.29 runs faster than 2.6.9 (which is contested on
its forum), and what would the difference in mobos do? Guess we'll never
know.

Hugo

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