Re: larry

From: steef (steefvanduin_at_zonnet.nl)
Date: 02/27/05

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    Macskasi Csaba wrote:

    >On Sunday 27 February 2005 09.54, Mr Mike wrote:
    >
    >
    >>and debian too.. With the new adaptation of the anaconda installer from
    >>RH, a very big roadblock to using debian has been removed. Now it needs to
    >>provide a more unified gui administration toolset like mandrake then there
    >>should be no reason why anyone couldn't/wouldn't want to give it a serious
    >>look..
    >>
    >>
    >
    >Well, I don`t know if it is as positive that the new installer has been
    >adapted as you say. The first time I booted the sarge-cd I was shocked. It
    >was just like windows. It was not userfriendly, it was n00bfriendly. (Even a
    >goose could install sarge if you put enough grain on the enter key...) The
    >expert option was a lot better, but I still want the nice, transparent
    >installer from potato/woody back. My solution was to manually install the
    >system with debootstrap...
    >I think, if debian gets too `userfriednly` it will end like windows. There are
    >several other distributions gui-installers and config tools. (yast, mcc...)
    >The `advanced` users want a simple, transparent system like debian. E.g. it
    >seems much more userfriendly to me to edit a textfile than to click around
    >half an hour on the gui-s... And if a user has learned all the basics on an
    >outher distribution, if he is ready to face the CLI, than he should try
    >debian. All the others should play around with gui-s. (imho)
    >
    >Regards,
    >Csaba
    >
    >
    >
    i agree. like i wrote before on this list, i think an os like debian
    kills itself by imitating the mumbo-jumbo of gui's etc of a lot of other
    distroos, not only windows but p.e. an os like mandrake included. if you
    start a new thing i consider it quite normal to start a learning curve.
    therefore were the how-to's etc. developped.

    yet it is not easy on a maillist to filter out the lazy folks. even in
    the case of 'larry' it was not exactly clear to me: so i would have
    decided to give even 'him' the benefit of the doubt.

    I agree too with csaba on the point that I too want back the simple
    transparant install system of adam on woody and, of course potato. the
    new installer has too much of a completely automated engine. personally
    i like a lot more the console which gives the user a lot more control
    and is for that reason a lot more user-friendly. so i guess if we do
    nothing we can sit down and wait till debian, the way we know it up till
    now, fades out.

    kind regards,

    groeten,

    autarkisch en autonoom,

    steef 

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