Re: Sarge Performance
From: Roberto C. Sanchez (roberto_at_familiasanchez.net)
Date: 05/21/05
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Date: Sat, 21 May 2005 16:41:35 -0400 To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Lars Roland wrote:
> Hi all
>
> I just replaced my company anti-virus/anti-spam mail gateway from a
> Redhat 7.3 with kernel 2.4.24 to Debian Sarge with kernel 2.6.8.1. I
> had hoped that this transition would lead to better performance (new
> perl, better drivers in the kernel and so on) but the performance has
> instead drooped about 30%.
>
> Here is my setup.
>
> Hardware:
> IBM 335 with dual 2.4 Ghz Xeon, 1GB Ram and 1 10.000RPM SCSI disk.
>
>
> Software:
>
> Minimal Debian Sarge (that is I have turned all unnecessary services off).
> Kernel 2.6.8.1-SMP.
> Reiserfs on all file systems.
> Qmail MTA configured with up to 70 incoming connections.
> ClamAV running as a daemon.
> 10 Spamassassin daemons (spamd)
> Qmail-scanner.
>
> On my old Redhat systems the hardware could scan around 60.000 emails
> pr. hour with an average scan time of 5.6 seconds (including time from
> both ClamAV and Spamassassin) and average load of 23.7.
>
> My new Sarge installation on the same hardware scans 40.000 emails pr
> hour with an average scan time of 4.8 but with a load average of 57.8.
>
> Interestingly if i time the internal handling of the email then Sarge
> seams to win.
>
> 1) Unpacking the email with Ripmime is about 5% faster than the old
> Redhat system.
> 2) Spam scanning the email is about 10% faster than the old Redhat system.
> 3) Perl handling of the email is about 2% faster.
> 4) ClamAv is scanning 4% faster.
>
> (the above numbers is the average taken from 4 days of mail flow
> (about 3.9 million emails))
>
> This fact leads me to think that the system cannot handle as many
> emails as before because it simply does not handle enough connections
> (eg. the connections time out on the SMTP port before even getting to
> the scanners) - To persue this idea I have tried the folowing
>
> 1) Change the file system to XFS, EXT3.
> 2) Running Reisefs with notail, nodiratime and noatime
> 3) Renice qmail-smtpd so it gets higher priority than spamd (hoping
> that this would lead to more connections getting handled).
> 4) Change the I/O scheduler to deadline (elevator=deadline).
> 5) Changed the kernel to 2.4.
> 6) Turning the firewall (iptables) completely off.
>
> Non of it has worked. And yes I do get 60.000 incoming connections pr.
> hour most of them just seams to time out an get handled by the next MX
> in my DNS.
>
> To see if the server could take the load on its own I have tried
> changing my MX to only contain this one server. This made the load
> jump to 98.9 and then the server eventually died with around 55
> defunct perl process's floating around - my old Rehat server could
> handle being the only mail server just fine (with loadavg around
> 28.5).
>
> So as it is now I am a bit baffled by the slowness of Sarge, because
> all the other systems I have converted to Sarge and kernel 2.6 have
> run significantly faster (Database servers, web servers, name
> servers...).
>
> So my question is this, does anyone know of any limitation in Sarge
> (default values of incoming connections (not that I have ever heard of
> such a thing)) that would cause my system to degrade in a way that it
> has. When I do a telnet to port 25 I simply do not get a connection
> fast enough (most of them times out) so this leads my to suspect that
> something is wrong.
Not sure. It appears that you have covered your bases pretty
well in terms figuring out where the bottleneck might be. I
would recommend reposting on debian-isp, since there are likely
people there that are more accustomed to dealing with extremely
high-volume mail servers. At least, you are more likely to
find someone there than here.
-Roberto
-- Roberto C. Sanchez http://familiasanchez.net/~sanchezr
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