Re: support for amd64?
From: Graham Smith (graham_at_crazysquirrel.com)
Date: 08/30/05
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To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 11:05:11 +0100
On Tuesday 30 August 2005 03:15, Bruno Buys wrote:
> Thanks Alan,
> No openoffice.org for amd64 can be an issue, really. I didn't know that.
> Also, I don't have mirrors close to me. So, I guess 'keeping an eye' is
> the right movement, for now.
> You own a amd64 machine? Does it run too hot? Here in Rio we have like
> 35 Celsius this month, which is supposed to be winter. In the summer we
> go easily to 40 C. Heating is always a concern.
> Regards,
>
I've been running a pure64 box for the last few months. Basically everything
that I want is available and works just as it does for x86. The most notable
exception is the lack of OOo which is a pain but it is fairly easily overcome
with a chroot. Of course a chroot means that you have to update two systems
but it is relatively easy to install.
Flash is missing from pure64 as well although to be quite honest I like it
that way ;o). I might get round to installing mozilla in the chroot one day.
xine works fine under 64 bit and you can watch dvd's. With some work you can
also use the 32 bit windows codecs, again, from in the chroot.
As for heat problems with a64; my office regularly hits 35 (or more) in the
summer and my A64 doesn't seem to mind. It does run a little warm for my
liking but it is using only the stock heat sink.
Graham
>
> Bruno
>
> Alan Ianson wrote:
> >On Mon August 29 2005 06:09 pm, Bruno Buys wrote:
> >>I was trying to figure out how good is debian support for amd64. Will it
> >>stand, in the long run? I do regular internet/email/writing stuff, as
> >>well as multimedia editing with marillat's software. I enjoy having a
> >>huge software archive, as is the x86 case. Will I suffer under amd64?
> >>Any insights? Why is there a 'pure64' dir on debian archives? Is it
> >>different from amd64?
> >
> >It will stand quite well I think. 90+ % of debian i386 is running fine on
> >amd64. There are a few packages missing (like cdrdao) but they will be
> > along soon. The merillat archive for amd64 isn't nearly as big as it is
> > for i386, at least not yet (I did see a big amd64 experimental merrilat
> > archive in my travells but haven't looked at it in any detail yet). I'm
> > just keeping an eye out for now. I am no expert on the matter, I don't
> > maintain any amd64 stuff I just use it, but from what I can see it may be
> > a while before amd64 has the same multimedia support that i386 has. There
> > is also no flash player for amd64 (or win/64 for that matter) or
> > openoffice.org. I have both amd64 and i386 installed so I go back and
> > forth as needed, or you can also chroot into a different root (I don't
> > have much experience with that).
> >
> >I'm not sure why there was amd64 and pure64 before, but I think there is
> > only pure64 now. AFAIK that is what Sarge amd64 r0a is but that would
> > probably be best answered by someone else. The info I have about it is
> > scattered and incomplete.
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