Re: changing window managers

From: Adam Hardy (adam.ant_at_cyberspaceroad.com)
Date: 09/07/05

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    Larry Fletcher on 06/09/05 21:19, wrote:
    > In article <20050905201439.GA26723@alcopop.org> you wrote:
    >
    >>On Mon, Sep 05, 2005 at 11:10:11AM -0700, Larry Fletcher wrote:
    >>
    >>>After looking around some more I found out the x-session-manager works
    >>>for startx, but it's not updated when new window managers are
    >>>installed. The x-session-manager updates:
    >>>/etc/alternatives/@x-session-manager
    >
    >
    >>Why should the session manager symlink be changed by a window manager?
    >
    >
    >>>The x-window-manager is updated when new window managers are
    >>>installed, so maybe @x-session-manager should link to
    >>>@x-window-manager?
    >
    >
    >>No - x-session-manager should point to a session manager, and
    >>x-window-manager to a window manager, respectively.
    >
    >
    >>If you have a ~/.xsession file, you may have specified a window manager
    >>in it.
    >
    >
    > I didn't have a ~/.xsession or ~/.xinitrc file.
    >
    >
    >>Otherwise, odds are the symlink from /usr/bin/x-window-manager is
    >>being used.
    >
    >
    > Okay. Now I see there is a difference between a session
    > manager and a window manager. Apparently some window managers
    > have session managers and need them to run properly and some
    > window managers don't use them. The problem was I installed
    > a window manager that didn't install a session manager and
    > since the old session manager was still installed the new
    > window manager wouldn't run.
    >
    > I also found it interesting that ~/.xinitrc takes precedence
    > over ~/.xsession, and x-session-manager takes precedence over
    > x-window-manager. So it doesn't work to use both ~/.xsession
    > and ~/.xinitrc. The best option seems to be to put the session
    > manager in ~/.xsession and not use ~/.xinitrc. And if there is
    > no session manager, to put the window manager in ~/.xsession.
    > Either that or learn how to configure x-session-manager and
    > x-window-manager.

    larry,
    are you still using startx to launch the desktop? If so, how long does
    it take?

    I used to use metacity (default with sarge) and it took 10 seconds
    maybe, and then I tried using others and it now takes 5 minutes.

    It's the window manager which causes it to hang for so long, but I can't
    work out what the problem is.

    Adam

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