Re: "Antispam UOL" spam from petsupermarket@uol.com.br?

From: Rogério Brito (rbrito_at_ime.usp.br)
Date: 11/18/05

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    Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 02:08:51 -0200
To: Gene Heskett <gene.heskett@verizon.net>

    Gene,

    On 11/18/05 01:17, Gene Heskett wrote:
    > On Thursday 17 November 2005 21:30, Rogério Brito wrote:
    >
    >>This attitude would punish a lot of users, "thank you". For example,
    >>since they are my ISP, I'm using them as a relay.
    >
    > And "open" relays should be banned. Period.

    I'm not using them in any illegal way. As I said, they are my ISP and I have to
    route all my mail through them.

    They don't have the best practices around (actually, I could, myself, administer
    an ISP much better than they can---and, in fact, had done so for some years,
    when I was beginning my M.Sc. degree), but the guilty part here is just an
    stupid user using the (stupid) challenge-response "antispam protection".

    > Nevertheless Rogerio, we are not impressed and from discussions on
    > other lists, this particular ISP has left a bad taste in everyones
    > mouth. Each of us has various methods of dealing with this, and ATM
    > I'm forwarding all such messages to abuse@uol.com.br. Its no doubt a
    > black hole, but...

    I don't know if that's exactly a black hole, but you can also try to address
    your messages to, at least, two other addresses:

    uol@uol.com.br
    security@uol.com.br

    I guess that forwarding he offending message(s) would be the effective way of
    dealing with this issue.

    Nice to have people from other countries irritated with their behaviour. It's a
    pain not to have Usenet access for serious newsgroups like sci.math,
    comp.theory, comp.text.tex, comp.lang.c++.moderated, comp.lang.c.moderated and
    comp.emacs.

    > If your messages are not getting through, then your choice as we see
    > it, is to lean on your ISP and loan them a clue.
    > Bat optional, but I'd take one along. Your call.

    Yes, getting a bat clue would help, but the customer support is so bad that I
    can't even speak with those that would make things happen---the "barrage" of
    stupid call-center monkeys always ask me "But sir, can't you navigate the web"?

    If I had other options, I would indeed consider them.

    But thanks for getting them the feedback needed. Perhaps they will listen to
    people from other countries.

    Regards, Rogério Brito. 

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