Re: aptitude uncomprehension
- From: Cedric BRINER <work@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 14:50:57 +0100
On Fri, Mar 03, 2006 at 08:19:29AM -0600, Matt Zagrabelny wrote:
On Fri, 2006-03-03 at 11:09 +0100, Cedric BRINER wrote:this is a freshly install workstation. It was install with the Fully Automatic Installer (fai).
hi,
on a debian/sarge
obsdw14:~# aptitude update
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree
Reading extended state information
Initializing package states... Done
Reading task descriptions... Done
Hit http://obsapt sarge/main Packages
Hit http://obsapt sarge/main Release
Hit http://obsapt sarge/contrib Packages
Hit http://obsapt sarge/contrib Release
Hit http://obsapt sarge/non-free Packages
Hit http://obsapt sarge/non-free Release
Hit http://obsapt stable/updates/main Packages
Hit http://obsapt stable/updates/main Release
Hit http://obsapt stable/updates/contrib Packages
Hit http://obsapt stable/updates/contrib Release
Hit http://obsapt stable/updates/non-free Packages
Hit http://obsapt stable/updates/non-free Release
Hit http://obsapt sarge/obs Packages
Hit http://obsapt sarge/obs Release
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree
Reading extended state information
Initializing package states... Done
Reading task descriptions... Done
obsdw14:~# aptitude upgrade
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree
Reading extended state information
Initializing package states... Done
Reading task descriptions... Done
No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed.
0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 0B will be used.
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree
Reading extended state information
Initializing package states... Done
Reading task descriptions... Done
obsdw14:~# aptitude dist-upgrade
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree
Reading extended state information
Initializing package states... Done
Reading task descriptions... Done
No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed.
0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 0B will be used.
Writing extended state information... Done
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree
Reading extended state information
Initializing package states... Done
Reading task descriptions... Done
obsdw14:~# aptitude install -R fai
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree
Reading extended state information
Initializing package states... Done
Reading task descriptions... Done
The following packages are unused and will be REMOVED:
akode altgcc aspell-en build-essential cdrdao dia dia-common dia-libs
digikamimageplugins eject esound-clients fam gimp-help-en gimp-svg
gnome-pilot gnome-pilot-conduits gstreamer0.8-a52dec gstreamer0.8-aa
gstreamer0.8-caca gstreamer0.8-cdparanoia gstreamer0.8-dv
gstreamer0.8-dvd gstreamer0.8-festival gstreamer0.8-gnomevfs
gstreamer0.8-gsm gstreamer0.8-hermes gstreamer0.8-jpeg
gstreamer0.8-mikmod gstreamer0.8-mpeg2dec gstreamer0.8-plugins
gstreamer0.8-sdl gstreamer0.8-sid gstreamer0.8-speex gstreamer0.8-swfdec
gstreamer0.8-theora gstreamer0.8-x gthumb gtk-engines-industrial
gtk-engines-smooth gtk-smooth-themes hermes1 imagemagick jackd
kde-i18n-de kde-i18n-fr kde-i18n-it kdemultimedia-kio-plugins
kdevelop3-doc kdvi kghostview khelpcenter kipi-plugins kregexpeditor
kviewshell ldso libadns1-bin libatk1.0-data libavc1394-0 libbz2-dev libc5
libc5-altdev libcdio3 libcompress-zlib-perl libdigest-hmac-perl
libdigest-sha1-perl libdv-bin libdv4 libft-perl libgdk-pixbuf2
libglib2.0-data libgsm1 libhtml-parser-perl libhtml-tagset-perl
libieee1284-3 libiso9660-3 libjpeg-progs libkcddb1 libkscan1 libmagick++6
libmail-sendmail-perl libnet-dns-perl liboggflac1 liboil0.3
libpaper-utils libpcre3-dev libpstoedit0 libqt3-compat-headers
libreadline5-dev librsvg2-bin libsamplerate0 libsane libsasl2-modules
libsidplay1-c102 libsndfile1 libsvga1 libswfdec0.3 libtool libttf2
libvcdinfo0 libwmf-bin libwxgtk2.4-python locales lzop miscfiles
nautilus-cd-burner openoffice.org-mimelnk perl-doc perl-suid perlmagick
psfontmgr pstoedit psutils python-imaging python-profiler python-xml
python2.3-f2py python2.3-iconvcodec python2.3-xml r-base-dev r-base-html
r-base-latex refblas3-dev resolvconf samba-common sane-utils sharutils
sketch smbclient spamassassin spamc tetex-doc texi2html ttf-thryomanes
unzip vcdimager videolan-doc x-ttcidfont-conf xfonts-konsole xli
The following NEW packages will be installed:
fai
The following packages are RECOMMENDED but will NOT be installed:
bootp dhcp3-server fai-kernels rsh-server syslinux tftpd tftpd-hpa
0 packages upgraded, 1 newly installed, 139 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 597kB of archives. After unpacking 326MB will be freed.
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why do suddenly I get such kind of behaviour.
it's getting me nuts.
I'm wanting to install fai without the recomended package. Because this machines was installed
with fai. I specified to use aptitude as the system to install package with fai.
have you used aptitude before?
In the configurations files of fai, I explicitely said that it must use aptitude as the default
installer. This will ensure that the data of aptitude are consistent (I hope so).
does some one know understand this ?
it is possible that those packages have been marked as 'automatically
installed' by aptitude and aptitude sees that no other packages are
depending on them so it is automatically cleaning up.
run aptitude in the console and hit enter on a package that is marked
for removal and see if it has a 'A' by it and also if there are any
packages that are installed that depend on it.
-matt zagrabelny
that I understand. But what I don't is:
- how come such situation can happen, when I always used aptitude ?
- why after a aptitude update; aptitude upgrade; aptitude dist-upgrade
it does not notify my that there is a situtation where such packages
need to be removed ?
- why do I get after a:
aptitude install fai, it just install me fai and the recommended packages,
and that a install -R fai, tells me that all this packages have to be removed ?
Moreover, I'm searching for a tool to navigate easily the packages depedencies
back and forward. eg.
- which packages are needed to install a package.
- which package served to other one.
(I know that I have difficulties to express myself).
to see the depedencies and to go up and down in it.
Cedric
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