Re: Fujitsu N3410 Hd won't mount



Damon Randel wrote:

Fujitsu N3410 Hd won't boot linux.

I think that linux is seeing my ultra ata 100 as a scsi or sata device and
can't use it. what kind of drivers or modules do i need to make this work
(gory details below) . I've installed a couple of different distros on
desktops and have not had major problems. This is probably something
obvious or easy but I am so new to this and my Google Fu is just up to
this.

I don't think this is something obvious. It's taken me a while to dig up
this information, so don't feel bad. :-) Of course, don't feel bad at all
if this information doesn't help. ;-)

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Basic Specs
Fujitsu Lifebook N3410
Intel Pentium m 740 1.73GHz
915GM chipset
512M Ram
Graphics - mobile Intel 915GM/GMS 910GML
HD - Toshiba MK8025GAS - Ultra DMA 100 - it is an ata not a sata drive
according to specs @ toshiba
According to the information I found, you are correct.

IDE/ATA controllers intel 82801FB/FBM Ultra ATA storage controllers
I believe this is a SATA controller chipset. This is where your problem
begins. Luckily, it can be solved, since SATA includes backward
compatibility with PATA. You just have to enable it.

Windows Xp Media Center (works with no problems)
all of these specs came from windows hardware manager and toshiba

opps all most forgot
Here how i partitioned it - primary for linux drives so that windows can't
see the drives and want to format them. fat 32 so that i can transfer
stuff between win and linux

80G
part1: ntfs (shrank to 15G) - primary
part2: reiser 15G - primary
part3: swap 3 gig - primary
part4: extended/logical fat32

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Basic Scenario

I installed debian (5 times same results) etch (and sarg) kernal 2.6.xx
(and 2.6 generic & 2.4) the net install for the latest driver and stuff. I
boot up and install. I get to disk partitioning. The partitioning software
recognizes the hard drive (even has the right model # and size) as sda not
hda but it recognizes the partitions and lets me work with them. I
partition and format. go through the entire install without any problems
(that I am aware of). Install grub it recognizes win xp for dual boot.
finish installation. Reboot and grub comes up no problem choose linux and
starts booting (I think) it rattles off a bunch of ata errors (see below)
and drops me to grub shell. I can't seem to do anything here that is
effective to solve the problem.

debian error messages
These are the ones that i remember.they moved by very fast and look like
the same error messages i got with kanotix as it booted.
ata1: Status=0x51 { driveready seekcomplete error }
ata1: error=0x40 { drivestatus error }
endrequest: I/O error dev sda nsector 156301424

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Attempted solutions
Checked google & google/linux checked linux on laptops (only 1 n series
and it was much older) looked at several other lifebooks did not see any
with similar problem.
Tried repartitioning - Checked partitions with Partition Magic, Partition
Commander, Partition manager
Checked hard drive with two different diagnostic packages - reported no
problems
Re- Installed again and again and again checking and repartitioning each
time. Grub works can boot to windows or attempt the linux.
Next tried several different live cd's (i'v been playing with these on and
off for several months on my desktop computers) with different results.
Here are the results.

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Kanotix
2005-4, 2006 ce-bit rc 3 with many different boot options.
Boots up and every thing seems to work (there are error messages during
boot look below full details). Sound, excelant video, even the wirless and
i have net access. The hard drive shows on the desktop as sda. can't
access it. try launching qtparted and it goes into never never land (same
thing happens in knoppix).and it seems to keep trying to acess the hard
drive all the time and the 2nd set of errors on terminal 1 just keep
scrolling on and on.

1st set of errors
ata1: translated ata stat/err 0x51/04 to scsi sk/asc/ascq 0xb/00/00 -
REPEATS 5 TIMES and then
Buffer I/O errors on device sda logical block 0
repeats the above 3 times

continues to boot and the next set of errors
ata1: port reset p_is 40000001 is 1 pis 0 cmd 4017 tf 4d1 ss 113 se 0
ata1: translated ata stat/err 0x51/04 to scsi sk/asc/ascq 0xb/00/00
ata1: staus=0x51 { driveready seekcomplete error }
ata1: error=0x40 { drivestatus error }
endrequest: I/O error dev sda sector xxxxxxxx (changes)
buffer I/O error on device sda logical block xxxxxxxxxxx
repeats the above endlessly.

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Knoppix
4.0.2 2005 9-23 tried several different boot options
Boots great. no error messages.sound video and wireless works. does not
endlessly try to access the hard drive. looks good seems ok except is try
to use qt-parted and the it goes into never never land. SDA shows up on
the desktop but you can't mount it

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Gentoo live
1st time boots lots of sata messages then seems to freeze on ahci for 20
or 30 seconds and then just stops when it tries the cd. Attempting to
mount CD:- /dev/sda and just stops there i'v left it going for a couple
minutes and nothing happens. Boot with the nosata option and it boots
great and it mounts the cd as /dev/hda.
==========================================================
Ubuntu and Kubuntu (no x-server working) and a couple of others can't even
boot up and tried al sorts of options

Sorry that this is so long and drawn out. I didn't know what information
you need. I would be thankful for any help or explanations of this
problem.

Thank You
DSR

No witty sig yet

I can't be sure of what's happening in all your live CD trials because I
don't know the kernel version, but I found a page [0] where someone
mentions getting a normal PATA drive working with a SATA controller took
some work.

Basically, if you have 2.6.12.x, you've got to edit the definitions in
includes/linux/libata.h, then recompile the kernel. However, for 2.6.14
(and presumably up), you can add the option "libata.atapi_enabled=1" to the
kernel command line in the bootloader configuration. You should be able to
provide this option to any live CD that uses a 2.6.14 or later kernel.
Give that a try, and let us know if it works.

If it doesn't, you may need to provide the relevant part of lspci -vv and
the error messages you're seeing.

Hope that helps,
Justin

[0]:http://linux.spiney.org/debian_gnu_linux_on_an_ibm_thinkpad_t43p_cdrw_dvdrw_multi_burner



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