Re: apt-get pinning ? - Sarge / Stable - only install certain/specific packages from "testing"
- From: Willie Wonka <floydstestemail@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 02:20:49 -0700 (PDT)
Paul E Condon wrote:
On Mon, Jun 26, 2006 at 04:22:08PM -0700, Willie Wonka wrote:
Stop! You need to read documentation on apt-get and aptitude before you go
any further in changing your system. There are situations in which following
piecemeal advice, as you are getting in prior post, will break your system.
Hi Paul, and all the others who've taken time to reply ;-)
I'm been very busy with my Day job (non-computer related).
Your system seems to be working now. I believe this because you are able
to post messages and read messages on this list.
Yes it is indeed! ....and yes I can.
So, what is it about your
system that you want to change and why?
I would like to use the latest version of 'hdparm' -- because it has some
recent changes that may help me debug... specifically the bugs/update for the
-I option.
<http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/system/hardware/!INDEX.html>
viewing the LSM file yields the changelogs;
===============================
Begin4
Title: hdparm
Version: 6.6
Entered-date: 2006-03-07
Description: hdparm - get/set hard disk parameters for Linux IDE drives.
v6.6 fix build on Redhat/Fedora
v6.5 fix -I bugs introduced in v6.4
v6.4 major update for -I, bug fix for -C
v6.3 report ATA revisions > 7
v6.2 major rework of ATA Security Commands
v6.1 bug fix for BLKGETSIZE
[...]
===============================
I detect a lot of faulty 'knowledge'
in you[r] post.
I certainly hope not "a lot". There's certainly some confusion (especially on
my part)
Read the doc.s. In particular read man pages to learn why you
need both update and upgrade. Do not rely on /etc/debian_version to tell you
what version of debian you are running. It is a user controlled file. Once
it is installed in the initial install, it is not changed by the apt-get
system.
Ok -- I still presume that "apt-get upgrade" will bring me up to 3.1r2? Perhaps
I'm mistaken?
For this install -- I *did* use CD #1(of 14) from the 3.1r1 release; everything
there-after has been d/l from the Internet -- NO "testing" entries were in any
files, _prior_to_yesterday_ , so if/when reviewing the relevant entries in
/etc/apt/preferences and /etc/apt/sources.list (upthread), just disregard the
"testing"...(disregard anything related to 'testing'), up until this point.
I did however perform the 1st "upgrade" ever, on this install, early yesterday
morning using this one entry for "testing";
~$ cat /etc/apt/preferences
Package: *
Pin: release a=testing
Pin-Priority: 50
I used the -s option (before the actual upgrade) in 'apt-get', to view the
differences that would've occured... and it *seems* the entry above made no
difference (or only an extrememly minor diff). I am so concerned with not being
understood now, that I can't really recall.
If your sources.list points to sarge or stable, you are running the current
stable, which is sarge.
Yep ;-)
The r-number in the version is not really important
to the user of a functioning stable system.
Trust me, I know -- I've broken many-a-'Stable'-system in the past (my own) --
and no, I'm not trolling, and I'm not a sadist -- I like to play with things, I
like to (try to) understand them. But please don't let that info keep anyone
from telling me how to upgrade an application.
You get the latest version of
whatever package you want by downloading from a repository on the web. The
r-number tells you what revision level a debian CD was written at. If you
have web access, which I think you do, you stop using your install CDs as
soon as you have functioning web access.
I did...
I have broadband access, and have always used the inet for 'updates'. Until
yesterday, I have not performed any 'upgrades'.
Are you now running stable or testing or what?
Stable!, Stable!, ala horses -- <jk> ;-)
This matters as to what advice
you should be given, and it's not clear which you are running, although I
suspect you are running stable, because r-numbers are not assigned to testing
or unstable.
You are corr-ect sir! (spoken like Ed McMahon, on "The Tonight Show" 'with
Johnny Carson' saying that)
Next, what do you want to be running?
Stable (with a sprinkling of "Testing").
Why do you want to change?
Because certain Application bugs have been worked out, and the misinformation
given from certain hardware utilities will go a long way in helping decipher
what's actually occuring with my hardware. Debugging my "Stable" install, for
one, and then later building my own Kernel.
Giving good advice requires that one knows what you want. From what
I've read so far, your desire for change is driven only by a
misunderstanding of what the r-number means.
I would say that you are misunderstanding what I am asking for - I could care
less what the 'r' (Release) number is - I'm much more concerned on how to "Pin"
appropriately....but since I've noticed 'r2' is now Sarge (and has been for a
few months) I might as well ask that question too.
Back to my questions about /pinning/....
I'm having a little trouble understanding the "priority" numbers that one sets
when adding entries in the /etc/apt/preferences file. Before yesterday, there
were '0' entries in that file on this system...it was blank.
As an aside; would not "upGRADING" bring me up to 3.1r2?. My goal is that I
would like to *upgrade* _some_ applications. Right now, only just one app.,
'hdparm'.
This install is not a mission-critical File-server, and I would dearly like to
keep it up and running, but perhaps I should just move the whole system up to
Testing, if I can't work out this *pin priority* stuff.
Thank you for your concern and your input Paul , and Thanks to all the others
who've replied.
Regards
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