Re: System Quits Responding-Swap Issue Or What?



--- Florian Kulzer <florian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

On Wed, Jul 26, 2006 at 10:13:03 -0700, Leonard
Chatagnier wrote:

Kent West <westk@xxxxxxx> wrote:

Leonard Chatagnier wrote:

Runing unstable on a Dell dimensions XPS T450
with 128
Mb Ram and 384 Mb Swap Partition on a 13 Gb
HD. I run
KDE with usually 4 or 5 session Konsole
windows open
and the Mozilla browser and perhaps an
embedded modia
player open-nothing else. Before a few minutes
pass (<
5 min.), the HD starts making noise, reading
and
writing, then the mouse becomes
unresponsive(clicking
anything wont respond for several minutes) and
may
even disappear(pointer) for a minute of so.
After
several minutes pass(maybe 15-20 min.) the
system
begins to respond normally again after the HD
slows
down it's read/write activity.

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I'd start by seeing if it happens with another
user.
In a different windowing environment.
In a simple X session (twm or icewm, etc)
In console without X running at all.
In single-user mode.

Then I'd post the results here.

[...]

Hope this answers all, if not, be glad to try more
with more specific how tos. In, short, once the HD
activity stopped after about a hour, it hasn't
restarted. Took about 3 hours to compose this
reply
mostly due to the delay during the HD activity.

Do you have logrotate and anacron installed? In that
case your symptoms
might be due to the log rotation process which is
started by anacron 5
minutes after boot, combined with a DMA problem
which makes hard disk
access very slow. (Under these conditions the
problem should only occur
after the first boot on every day, or if you leave
the computer on
during the night.) Other cronjobs such as mandb
updates could also
contribute to the problem.

I would boot into single user mode and check the
hard disk access speed.
Post the output of the following commands (assuming
your HD is /dev/hda):

hdparm /dev/hda
hdparm -tT /dev/hda

--
Regards,
Florian

Hello Florian, sorry for delay but Debian has just
about quit on the linux box. Lucky for me WXP still
works on a lesser machine. Mozilla crashed while
composing my reply with Yahoo web mail. And things get
worse: after booting in single mode to get your info,
X wont start, no mice, lots of permission denied in
/etc/rc2* with can't chown,etc, message attempt to
access beyond end of device: hda1 rw=0 wants (a number
beyond limit) limit=a lesser number,
no DSL on linux but wxp ok, /etc/resolv.conf-no such
file of directory, single user fsck says all
partitions are clean, boot shows some rmdir
messages(scares me) but dmesg doesn't list them.
kern.log and debug shows lots of Write, some Read and:
many
init_special_inode: bogus i_mode(177762,63,64,66,67),
syslogd (4500): dirtied inode 273672(syslog) on hda3,
syslogd (4500): dirtied inode 273702(kern.log) on hda3
and many more.
Now your info. Booted into single user mode and gave
root pswd for maint:
# hdparm /dev/hda
/dev/hda:
multcount=0(off)
IO_support=0(default 16-bit)
unmasking=0(off)
using_dma=1(on)
keepsettings=0(off)
readonly=0(off)
readahead=256(on)
geometry=26500/16/63, sectors=26712000,start=0
#
#hdparm -tT /dev/hda
/dev/hda:
Timing cached reads: 520 MB in 2.01 sec=258.15 MB/sec
Timing buffered disk reads: 52 MB in 3.06 sec=16.98
MB/sec
#
Hope you can offer some suggestions on what happened
and how to fix X which /EE' entries showed to be an
input(mice) error. Tried to dpkg-reconfigure xorg but
got "something" permission denied here and on aptitude
install/reinstall attempts. Debian froze again and did
another of many reboots(with reset button) and now DSL
is working but still no X.
Looking forward to some reply.

Leonard Chatagnier
lenc5570@xxxxxxxxxxxxx


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