Re: Maze of Twisty Turny Little Package Managers
- From: Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson@xxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 20:55:29 -0600
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On 11/28/06 19:26, Paul E Condon wrote:
On Tue, Nov 28, 2006 at 04:13:27PM -0800, Arlie Stephens wrote:
Hi Folks,
It appears that there are a lot of tools for managing packages and
dependencies on debian - dpkg, apt-get, aptitude, synaptic, ????.
To what extent do these tools understand the same data, i.e. to what
extent can one mix and match between them?
I notice some confusion (someone else's question) about which are the
'official' or favored method in debian - but my confusion is even more
fundamental. To what extent is it safe to follow people's
recomendations, when one person habitually uses apt-get, another
mentions aptitude, etc. etc.?
Related to this, I've a problem specific to a combination of aptitude
and my employer's internal servers. (We've got mirrors of several
linux distros, with company "value add", which I'm expected to use
rather than the official distributions.) The people maintaining these
sites don't seem to use aptitude at all, and I think they've broken
something, because aptitude always tells me that most upgradeable
packages are "held" at some current, lower version. (They claim
That's why I use apt-get.
not to have done this on purpose, which was my first guess, since I
can imagine them wanting to test and officially 'bless' new versions.)
Any idea what they could have done, and how I could work around it?
(I don't think it's debian itself, because my home system - which uses
the official sites - doesn't have any such problem.)
Perhaps what I really need is some kind of FAQ for coping with the
large number of package management options and their confusing
interrelationships. Does any such thing exist?
All the various programs that you find confusing are just different
user-interface programs that all work with a single packaging system.
Yes, but...
If a package is in the Debian repository, and if it can't be installed
by using any one of the user-interface programs, then there is a bug
in the package that needs to be reported to the Debian bug tracking
system.
apt-get and aptitude store "history" in different formats. Thus,
aptitude seems not to do well on systems where you start out using
apt-get.
Different people have different priorities as to what is important
in the twisty turnies of program management. For me, I listen to
the discussion. I try to avoid the program whose advocates shout
the loudest. YMMV ;-)
- --
Ron Johnson, Jr.
Jefferson LA USA
Is "common sense" really valid?
For example, it is "common sense" to white-power racists that
whites are superior to blacks, and that those with brown skins
are mud people.
However, that "common sense" is obviously wrong.
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