Re: 2 weeks as a Debian user: a report back

On 12/24/06, andy <geek_show@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Dear Debian Users

(...)

I admit that I am also using a new machine than the one I Ran Slackware
on, and I am using a new kernel than that which I used with Slackware. I
have always been a little daunted by the prospect of rolling my own and
imploding my own system in the process. The Etch install made getting a
default 2.6 kernel easy. Somehow (I followed some instructions, and they
seemed to have worked) I upgraded my 2.6 kernel and am running a system
with a comfortable amount of resources and space to play around a bit.
I am using Gnome as my WM having formally been a fan of XFce I am quite
enjoying some of the automations that Gnome offers (e.g. daily package
updates). As a WM, Gnome doesn't seem to release resources as quickly as
XFce did with Slackware. Since I haven't setup XFce to run with Debian,
I can't comment on a comparison btw XFce on Slack or Deb, except that,
by default, Debian Etch seems to run a later version of XFce.

Have you installed GNOME through the "desktop environment" option into
the installer ? If not, i would suggest you do as root: aptitude
update && aptitude install desktop gnome-desktop . It will push Xorg,
Firefox (now iceweasel in Debian), OpenOffice, just the needed GNOME
modules and tons of other useful stuff (eg.: multimedia support for
the browser).

You can install XFCE as root, running: aptitude update && aptitude
install desktop xfce-desktop . You're free to test kde too, following
the same concept (kde-desktop).

For those in doubt these desktop and $foo-desktop thing came from
tasksel that is also used by d-i (the debian-installer). The tasksel,
d-i and debian-desktop (a pkg-gnome, pkg-kde and pkg-xfce joint
effort) did the dirty job behind the scenes to give you the best
possible desktop and freedom of choice. You will see special CDs and
maybe live CDs surface once we release Etch (debian-cd guys are
working on that too). Stay tuned and spread the word! :)

So what's different, at least from my pov?
1. Software installs right, plays nicely together and I have yet to run
into dependency hell (touch wood :) )
2. The range of software available is quite stunning, and I am impressed
by the little tweaks of applications that makes them recognise each
other, such as the auto-mount and the intelligent use of hot-plugging,
the auto-updating of applications, and the overall stability of the system.
3. I also think that the rendering of the screen and the range of fonts
is very impressive.
4. The installation was pretty straightforward, but aside from
idiosyncrasies in procedure between Debian and Slackware, the
installation process didn't pose any difficulties. Once one does some
reading apt-get seems reasonably straightforward, and that Debian has
init.d files when Slackware uses rc.d files takes a bit of reminding to
get straight, but that's just self-de/re-programming.

Please use synaptic (GNOME) and aptitude (console) and not apt-get
directly. It's better.

Overall, I am really impressed with Debian, and I realise that there is
a lot yet to learn about the "Debian way". After 2 weeks however, I must
also say that I have found the support and discussion here first-rate,
prompt and thoughtful. Nice one ... that certainly boosts a new user's
confidence. :)

That's nice to hear. Thank you for taking your time writing the message.

So, onwards and onwards :D I am beginning to get a sense of GNU/Linux's
power through its software and its range of capacity, whereas with
Slackware I had a sense of GNU/Linux's reliability and work-horse
stability. This is like flying after having learnt (to some degree of
functionality) to walk!!

Happy 2007 to y'all

Have fun with Debian and happy 2007.

I don't know if any Debian developers read these lists

We do.

regards,
-- stratus


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