xv resolved (was Re: update messages)

On Sun, Dec 31, 2006 at 11:55:38AM -0800, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
Its not so much the removal of a package that disturbs me - it is
the apparent lack of warning or explanation.

well, since it was removed from the official repositories in 2001:

http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=98215

it is very unlikely that you successfully installed it from official
repositories in 2006. you obviously installed it from another
source. so technically, it was not "Removed without notice". You have
simply lost track of where it came from ;-P

I don't remember doing it, but it looks like I must have done, so
mea culpa on that one...

Mind you - it still looks like xlockmore and xearth disappeared from
the official packages with only an automated acknowledgement that
they are gone rather than an explanation:
http://packages.qa.debian.org/x/xlockmore/news/20061119T233918Z.html
http://packages.qa.debian.org/x/xearth/news/20060610T210838Z.html

And a were it not for those examples of things that had disappeared
from the official packages I probably would have been less quick
to jump to conclusions about xv ;)

It makes me rather reluctant to upgrade if some package that I have
come to rely on might unexpectedly disappear - perhaps unnoticed
until it is urgently needed...

that is the problem with using packages outside the official debian
repositories. You got caught because a non-official package you were
using has gotten out of sync with the official libraries that support
it. best bet is to file a bug report with the group that is supplying
the package. or use the source, luke.

Don't want to sound like I am just complaining without offering anything
constructive, so here is the solution I have found to obtaining xv for
the current Etch system:

1. Visit http://bok.fas.harvard.edu/debian/xv/index.html and
obtain:
xv-3.10a.tar.gz
xv-3.10a-jumbo-patches-20050501.tar.gz
xv-3.10a-jumbo20050501-1.diff.gz
2. Make sure the following packages are installed
xlibs-dev, dpkg-dev, libc6-dev, libtiff4-dev, libjpeg62-dev
libpng-dev, zlib1g-dev, debhelper, libxt-dev
3. Follow the instructions on the URL as follows:
tar -xvzf xv-3.10a.tar.gz
mv xv-3.10a xv-3.10a-jumbo20050501-1
cd xv-3.10a-jumbo20050501-1
patch -p1 < ../xv-3.10a-jumbo-fix-patch-20050410.txt
patch -p1 < ../xv-3.10a-jumbo-enh-patch-20050501.txt
patch -p1 < ../xv-3.10a-jumbo20050501-1.diff
chmod 755 debian/rules
dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -uc -b
cd ..
sudo dpkg -i xv_3.10a-jumbo20050501-1_i386.deb
sudo dpkg -i xv-doc_3.10a-jumbo20050501-1_all.deb

It would be nice if that procedure could be bundled up into a debian
source package if my understanding is correct and the problem with xv
was that the licence prohibits distribution of modified binaries.

Perhaps it is possible - I don't know enough about debian packages
to know for sure.

The good thing about that is the entire dist-upgrade requirement
stemmed from my needing the X development libraries, and at least
this exercise has verified my ability to build X applications now :)

Now to see if I can find the other two applications that I lost in
the process of the upgrade...

Regards,
DigbyT
--
Digby R. S. Tarvin digbyt(at)digbyt.com
http://www.digbyt.com


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