Re: [OT/Sometimes Windows is better] Horrible GNOME File Picker (Was: Open (helper application chooser) for iceweasel/icedove is too simple)

Andrei Popescu said...
On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 10:32:08 -0000
marc <gmane@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

For me Opus 8 is too bloated.

Bloated is one of those spurious apparent criticisms that doesn't
mean anything, though. In any case, why would anyone translate the
"bloat" when porting functions to Linux?

Maybe I misused the term, but I meant too many functions in program
that can make it slower and too complicated.

Sure, if the thing is like molasses then none of us want it; no argument
there. But to be fair to Opus, it doesn't exhibit any slowdown. I agree
that learning all the underlying functionality makes it complicated, but
there's no need - I certainly don't know it all, especially it's inbuilt
scripting. And surely that's a good thing: easy to use the essential
stuff, but you can dig in when you have the inclination - like Linux :-)

Where Opus is a bit of a pig is its prefs. But then devs seem to be poor
at this in general - possibly because the prefs evolve rather than get
designed.

Total Commander (former Windows Commander) is much faster

In what way is Opus 8 slow? There's no lag in any file manager I've
used recently - except those that poll through directories to perform
"mime magic".

You are probably using current hw. Until recently I was running a
PIII-800. The difference between krusader and worker was obvious.

I use a PIII 800. Snap!

In any case, my comment was not about the "best" file manager on
Windows
- which is just another emacs vs vim debate - but the fact that the
Linux file managers could learn a lot from the mature file managers
on Windows. If Total Commander has functions worthy of borrowing,
then that's good too.

IMHO file managers on Windows are (sometimes) more developed because
(almost) nobody is using the shell. There are still lots of linux users
using *only* the shell for file managing, especially the more advanced
ones.

And the fact that folk are being paid to develop those file managers
probably helps a bit.

But I don't know what you mean by the two pane setup sentence.
Krusader has that by default.

As I said, I use Krusader, but its limited layout options is a good
example of what not to do, imo. IOW, a good example to learn from.

I think the best model in such cases is to use plugins as much as
possible. This way the user has the choice to install only the
functionality he really needs.

Yup, the modular approach is ideally the best. But then what I often
find is that the module/plug-in management tends to be poor -
particularly information about what plug-ins are available. And this is
where I came in: borrowing the best ideas is no bad thing, wherever they
come from.

--
Cheers,
Marc


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