Re: debian how-to



On Mon, Dec 31, 2007 at 08:13:31AM -0500, drn_temp2@xxxxxxxxxx wrote:
From: "Douglas A. Tutty" Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 7:08 AM

The docs are always under /usr/share/doc/[package name]
apropos
which
locate
find

As a n00b to Debian (though I've used several distributions over the past
few years) a lot of these simple things can take quite a while to figure
out. For those of you who have been intimately involved and continuously
using Debian it is so obvious but to the rest of us - nope.

That kind of info should be in the debian-reference, debian-policy, fhs,
etc.


Not all the docs are under /usr/share/doc/[package name], some are under
usr/share/[package name] with no apparent rhyme nor reason. Then,
everything is gzipped, should the user extract these to their home folder
or is there a particular method to read these as they stand?


If you find docs for a package under /usr/share/[package name] then that
is probably a bug. Personally, I view the docs with mc. When you tell
it to view, it will unpack and display with its internal viewer. If it
is html, I hit enter and I get lynx.

I've never seen a question here on the list about "how do I read the
documentation".

There are a plethora of packages that popup when you search aptitude or the
other graphical package manager, which is the most common and easiest to
use? should we install everything or?


Just like doing a library search (or a google search), you can combine
search terms for Aptitude. Search patters are covered in the
aptitude-doc manual.

Also getting the package managers to work with other mirrors or the non
free or contrib, how is it done without searching for hours through
documentation in an often cyclic manner.


You can't complain that debian doesn't tell you how to connect to a
non-debian mirror. man sources.list should work for all mirrors.
Contrib and non-free are also examples given in the man page.

Then there's the installation manual that gives a brief overview of the
installation but few links to go to for additional resources, help etc
other than the list. What about using the Rescue modes of the install CD,
other than a few short paragraphs there's not much help there. I've
discovered a few it's inherent limitations while fixing the messed up grub
hd assignments, ended up using a knoppix DVD to do all the fixing and
reinstalling of GRUB, after searching for a few hours for solutions. The
grub shell won't run from the rescue mode so many of the helpful items are
unavailable.


The installation manual is huge, not a brief overview. You may have
been looking at an installation summary. The release notes for Etch
were quite a stack when I printed them out.

As was stated many other disto's have these n00b pages for a quick
reference to get us up to speed so that we can start figuring out how to do
things on our own. Many n00bs are reticient to post to lists or forums as
they often receive negative feed back from some of the more seasoned users
who feel like they are answering the same questions time and again.


debian-reference, aptitude-doc, man pages, installation manual (the
whole thing), online wiki, google the archives, and then ask on the
list.

I've yet to find anything on somehow efficiently searching archives for
fixes to problems that may have already been solved. Sometimes it's just a
matter of using the proper key words.


google. site:lists.debian.org [topic] [topic]...

Anyways, my diatribe has gone on long enough, sorry. I'm just trying to
elaborate on the need here, not asking for assistance ... yet. :)
Dave

Doug.


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