Re: CRLF (was Re: text file from Linux to windows.)

Andrew Reid wrote:
On Thursday 29 May 2008 21:28, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Actually, it dates back further than that, to ASR33 teletype machines,
where you needed to issue separate carriage return and line feed
characters to end a line - to i) physically return the carriage to the
beginning of the line, and ii) feed a line of paper (turn the platten).
(Anybody else out there old enough to remember when ASR33s where THE
standard i/o device? :-)
I don't recall it being THE standard, but I recall that numerous
research Unix servers used to have DECwriter consoles as late as
the mid-1980s.
That's true, there were always Flexowriters, and all the IBM stuff :-)
These had one small advantage over modern consoles, namely, they
were pretty loud. Sysadmins could use this to simulate psychic
powers -- when the server wrote an error message to its console,
you could hear it, subtly but distinctly, from several rooms
away. You could then announce to your less-attentive colleagues,
"there's a server problem," and they'd never figure out how
you knew.

Not that I ever did that. Purely hypothetical, you understand.
But of course :-)

I still recall learning to touch type on an ASR33 (connected to an old DG Nova as I recall, circa 1970 or so) - there was a 1/2 second delay between striking a key, and the character being written, and it was just about as hard to hit a key as on a manual typewriter. The first time I used a real electric typewriter (IBM Selectric), boy did that mess up my timing.


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