Running testing? -- read this.



----- Forwarded message from Manoj Srivastava <srivasta@xxxxxxxxxx> -----

User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu)
From: Manoj Srivastava <srivasta@xxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2008 12:14:03 -0500
To: debian-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Bug#484129: release.debian.org: packages in tasks should be fixed in priority and removed in last resort after
discussion

On Tue, 3 Jun 2008 12:05:45 -0400, Joey Hess <joeyh@xxxxxxxxxx> said:

Manoj Srivastava wrote:
I thought I had answered that. The only version that th project
releases for end users is stable.

Debian has been releasing versions of testing for end users for years.

This is perhaps a matter of semantics.

Where I come from, when you are testing something, it is not
"released". Releases, in my view, have release numbers, so people can
refer to them in bugs and recommend to other folks; our testing is
volatile, and changes at least daily. I do agree that microsoft has
blurred issue, but releasing things early to paying consumers to test,
but hey.

We call it testing for a reason: it is a a branch for testing
what our next release will be. Do we try to keep it as close to a
viable release as we can? Sure. Do we try to make it easy for people to
test? Absolutely. But it would be diseembling to pretend that this
version is anything but a test version of a product under development,
and that stuff happens with development versions.

People who run our test versions are part of our community, they
are helping us test our development packages. We will not make things
harder for them than they need to be, but they should also not be
shielded from the fact (and it is a fact) that what they are ending up
installing is a test version of a product under development.

I also made an assumption: an end user is one who does not care
to be a early adopter guinea pig; and for people who do not care for
breakage and do not want to participate in product development and
testing, the only variant we produce is called the stable release

manoj
--
If the odds are a million to one against something occurring, chances
are 50-50 it will.
Manoj Srivastava <srivasta@xxxxxxxxxx> <http://www.debian.org/~srivasta/>
1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C


--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-REQUEST@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

----- End forwarded message -----

--
Chris.
======
"One, with God, is always a majority, but many a martyr has been burned
at the stake while the votes were being counted." -- Thomas B. Reed


--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx



Relevant Pages

  • Re: [OT] gob.mx = IE6 only!
    ... So this is an official Mexican government site *hardcoded* to M$ IE! ... Steelypips, illustrious, industrious, and they hadn't a care: ... no trouble from matter or antimatter -- for they had a ... To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ...
    (Debian-User)
  • Re: whats your favourite FLOSS?
    ... Sorry but here's where I unsubscribe for a couple of months while the ... Think anyone would, a) care?, b) not think you were insane? ... That's pretty much the equivalent of what most "I'm leaving the list" ... Trouble? ...
    (Debian-User)
  • Re: 2TB USB hard drive for backing up
    ... In fact, I might backup the system (at least, the list of ... packages installed). ... with LUKS and RAID without trouble. ... To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx with a subject of "unsubscribe". ...
    (Debian-User)
  • Re: Running testing? -- read this.
    ... blurred issue, but releasing things early to paying consumers to test, ... are helping us test our development packages. ... an end user is one who does not care ... To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ...
    (Debian-User)
  • Re: Merging all 30+ Debian CDs onto hard drive
    ... of all the CD's when installing new packages? ... APT-GET INSTALL does allow me to continue, ... To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ... Trouble? ...
    (Debian-User)