Re: Debian Etch and a half



[re CC'ing debian-laptop and debian-user, so others can help]

On Sat, 2008-11-22 at 14:40 -0800, jeffry killen wrote:
On Nov 22, 2008, at 12:47 PM, Frank Lin PIAT wrote:

On Sat, 2008-11-22 at 11:22 -0800, jeffry killen wrote:
I downloaded the netinst and want to install [..] I have static ip
address service with my ISP.

IIRC, Debian installer will try DHCP, then offer to configure the
interface manually.

O.K., I downloaded the netisntall cd image and burned it to
a disc as data file iso 9660.
I put it in the cd/dvd tray and entered bios setup to tell
the system to boot from cd.
I started with the dhcp connection attempt and failed
saying it did not get any offers. So the system switched
back to the system on the hard drive and boot normally.
This was with the netinstall image.

From what you describe, it seems that your computer is trying to
"netboot" (i.e boot from the network), as opposed to trying to boot from
the CDROM.

What we want is to boot from the CD, start installing the system from
the CDROM, then download the extra files from a Debian Mirror.

Is your laptop a PC or a Mac?

The installer wants to get on the net using dhcp so I change
the network interface configuration to use dhcp but I would
rather download the business card image.

I don't understand what's your problem here.


The web page in
the Debian site has this under the heading for the business
card installer:

businesscard CD image (generally 20-50 MB)

* Available for all architectures.
* Needs to be booted with the option 'suite=etch' to install
etch-and-a-half.
* Will automatically install the 2.6.24 kernel.

specifically:
Needs to be booted with the option 'suite=etch' to install
etch-and-a-half.
How do I do this?

When your are at the boot prompt, select the install menu entry, then
press the "tab" key, then type "suite=etch", so you get something like
:
install suite=etch

So, it is 99% certain I am doing something wrong.
What do you think it is?

You computer seems to try to boot from the network, not from the CD.

The platform I used to download the cd image files
was Mac OSX and the software I used to burn the
cd was Roxio Toast. I do this because this machine
Mac OSX is the one that is configured with one of
the static ip addresses and is the one I use to
contact the web and do down loads and such. The
other machines I have, including the new one, are
either configured with static private ip address
or public static ip addresses and are web servers.

So when I tried to use the netinstall cd, I had the
machine connected to the ADSL modem/router
with the interface configured for dhcp. This did not
work. The reported reason that no offer was received.

I assume the "No offer" message comes from the BIOS
screen (black and white), not from Debian-Installer (blue and red
screen)

I believe this is because there is no dhcp server between
the router/modem and the machine.

The Modem/Router probably has a DHCP (most of htem have one). However a
DHCP isn't enough to allow "PXE netboot".
Anyway, what you want to do is to boot from the CD, as mentioned above.

So advertising re-
quests have to go all the way out through the isp's system
to find a dhcp server. My understanding is that at this
stage of the boot process, the machine is trying to find
a boot-p server to boot from.

Oh, yes that's correct. We reach the same conclusions.

So it could be bypassing the cd as not bootable. I am not enough of a
computer scientist to get to the bottom of this.

You look good enough :

Could I be missing the boot prompt. Things happen
quickly on this machine.

What computer brand / model?

I have Debian Etch 4.0 r1 and am told that it does
not support newer hardware (cd/dvd) drivers and
to get Etch and a half, which I am trying to do.

You would be able to boot the CD anyway.

Once I get the basic system installed I can use the existing
cd's to install packages.

Correct.

I have written a lot. I don't mean to be a pest but this
is what I have to hand at present

You can try to ask on #debian irc channel, on irc.debian.org
Xchat ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xchat ) is a good irc client that
is available on many platform. (It's time to sleep here).


Franklin


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