Re: debian-user-digest Digest V2009 #12
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2009/1/2 <debian-user-digest-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
debian-user-digest Digest Volume 2009 : Issue
12
Today's Topics:
Re: OT: laptop recomendations [ "Boyd Stephen Smith Jr."
<bss@iguan ]
Re: OT: laptop recomendations [ "Boyd Stephen Smith Jr."
<bss@iguan ]
kde Lenny testing [ "Sonny Jordan" <
sonnyrme2@xxxxxxxxx ]
Re: Suggestion about file permission [ "Boyd Stephen Smith Jr."
<bss@iguan ]
Re: Failed Lenny Installs - Etch Ins [ chris <nws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> ]
Re: hard crash on leap second [ Bob Cox
<debian-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx ]
Re: kde Lenny testing [ "Tshepang Lekhonkhobe"
<tshepang@gm ]
Re: Nice looking terminal applicatio [ "David Schmidt" <davewood@xxxxxx>
]
Re: monitoring HP NetRaid-1si hardwa [ Arthur Marsh
<arthur.marsh@internod ]
Re: Nice looking terminal applicatio [ "Kelly Clowers"
<kelly.clowers@gmai ]
Re: Transferring pictures from a dig [ Bob Cox
<debian-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx ]
How to connect a Host to tunnel (so [ Jabka Atu <mashrom.head@xxxxxxxxx>
]
[solved] Re: grub2 and ext4 [ Micha Feigin <
michf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> ]
On Thursday 01 January 2009, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi
<raju.mailinglists@xxxxxxxxx> wrote about 'Re: OT: laptop recomendations':
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
On Wednesday 2008 December 10 16:45:09 Micha Feigin wrote:
Runner up is Dell, although the hardware seems a bit cheap when looking
at the drivers (especially the touchpad which tends to be alps which
isn't up to par with the synaptic).
I'm happy with my Dell Inspiron E1505. My roommate is happy with his
more recent laptop purchase from Dell. My other roommate likes his
Thinkpad, but it is a much older system, so I can't say that reflects
the quality of current Thinkpads.
I own a Dell Inspiron E1505. I do not recommend it. Get something else
(preferably non-Dell).
I always have problems with their batteries, video card. No matter how
many times I replace the batteries, they seem to go bad after some time.
I replaced the battery 3 times. After 3-4 months the battery life will
be reduced to less than 1 hour and then after some time, they just don't
work.
I'm still using the original battery, although I did get a spare for when I
will eventually wear out. It depends on what I'm doing, but 4 hours of
battery life is not unheard of, nearly 1.5 years after the purchase date.
Running the DVD drive constantly *significantly* reduces that, but I can
still use it for at least 90 minutes watching a DVD while running on the
battery.
As for the video card, if I play a flash based movie in windows XP, there
will be a "blue screen memory map" error after some time. FWIW, the
movies work fine in Linux. I searched in google for this and found that
the video cards in Dell Inspiron E1505 are defective.
Link please?
I'd never even consider installing MS Windows on mine, but I've never had a
video-card related kernel panic or even X crash. I've played plenty of
flash-based video in Linux. The card / drivers don't seem to like each
other a whole lot though. My Etch/Lenny mix I had on it until Dec. 8th
needed to be switched to a test-mode VC and back before it would display
anything after a resume. The openSUSE 11.1 (for work I need turnpike and
the Novell/Nortel plugin) I'm running on it right now appears to do that
for me.
In general, I think Dell's hardware is unreliable. They work fine
initially. But after 1 year or so, things start to fall apart. This is
if you plan to use laptop intensively (say 8-10 hours a day). But if you
just use it for 1-2 hours a day, then it's life might be more.
Mine is a work laptop. I generally use it 8 hours, 5 days a week. It gets
even more use if I've got some problems with my desktop, up to ~12 hours,
7 days a week.
The only hardware-related problem I had with it was a "stuck *row*" in the
LCD panel. I lived with it for a while, even using it as a guide for how
I partitioned my desktop with windows (to hide it in the window borders).
However, when I finally got around to calling Dell, they replaced the LCD
panel with no cost to me, sending a technician w/ parts to my workplace so
downtime was minimal.
Anyway, I'm not sure my experience with a laptop is "norm". You probably
should get multiple (>3) opinions on vendors/models you are considering.
--
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =.
bss@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ((_/)o o(\_))
ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-'
http://iguanasuicide.net/ \_/
On Friday 02 January 2009, Mark Allums <mark@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote about 'Re:
OT: laptop recomendations':
Don't blame Dell for the video being defective, in this case. The
culprit is NVidia, and all laptop makers are at their mercy.
The laptop in question (Inspiron E1505) has an Intel video card.
--
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bss@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ((_/)o o(\_))
ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-'
http://iguanasuicide.net/ \_/
Just want to say I have been slowly & patiently waiting for the stable
release of 'Lenny".
I have been trying others for fun. I decided tonight to go ahead & download
the testing release of the KDE Lenny. I AM SO GLAD Y'ALL DID NOT USE THE
STUPID & PITIFUL 'PULSE AUDIO'.!!
I can actually hear my music with debian! I can also record Streamtuner!!
I know it is not nice to mention names so I will just use the first letter
of other distros using Debian repos that really suck on the afore
mentioned. I have tried U, K, UUE & Mint(sorry) And only Mint Records But
still cannot adjust volume to hear it good..
I haveused Debian since around 3. I love Debian! It is quick,Understandale,
& easy! The Debian install stinks though. No live CD. Takes about 20 min. to
install. BUT it is worth it!
Love your KDE version so far! I hope it is on the stable release.
To all the people working on Debian...THANK YOU for the pleasure of being
able to use & say that Debian is my desktop!
Thank You,
Sonny Jordan
On Thursday 01 January 2009, grok <grok@xxxxxxxxx> wrote about 'Suggestion
about file permissions being listed in debian packages':
A lot of issues with users come about because of incorrect
file/dir permissions (for whatever reasons. Make no
assumptions, please. There's a good reason why Ubuntu now
exists).
I don't know that's true, but I'll assume it is for the benefit of further
discussion.
Wouldn't the '/var/lib/dpkg/info/<package>.list' files be
the perfect place to explicitly lay out the file & directory
permissions/user/group info for each file in a package?
Yes.
That
way, the users could, if necessary, check the present state
of their packages by this list, first, to see if their
problems might possibly be cleared up by adherence to this
schema. The worst that could happen would be that the info
in the .list file would be wrong -- itself a symptom of a
bad install, etc.
I agree.
Does this make sense?
Yes.
Try searching the archives for previous discussions (I don't remember any,
but the list has been around a *long* time), you might find some less
agreeable points of view that will help sharpen your argument. Assuming
no one pipes up here with an issue after a week or so. File a bug
(wishlist priority) against the "general" pseudo-package, and follow up
it's opening with a mail to debian-devel; that should get the ball
rolling.
--
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =.
bss@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ((_/)o o(\_))
ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-'
http://iguanasuicide.net/ \_/
On Thu, 01 Jan 2009 13:46:10 -0500, Bill Diehl wrote:
So, I installed Etch r5 i386 without any problems.
You do know that if you change "etch" to "lenny" in /etc/apt/
sources.list, you can upgrade your system to testing? You do not need the
Lenny-cd to get Lenny: you have a working system and internet access.
Have fun!
On Thu, Jan 01, 2009 at 20:31:50 -0500, Paul Cartwright (
ale@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx) wrote:
On Thu January 1 2009, Paul Cartwright wrote:jitter
On Thu January 1 2009, Bob Cox wrote:and then:
no, I have an always-on DSL connection.
Westell modem->linksys router->PC.
Hi Paul - what's the output from ntpq -p please?
# ntpq -p
remote refid st t when poll reach delay offset
==============================================================================
+keeleysam.com 129.6.15.28 2 u 37 64 377 62.332 158.333360.774
+wsip-98-172-32- 129.7.1.66 2 u 37 64 377 85.031 131.351241.558
+doctor-who.chpc 204.152.184.72 2 u 39 64 377 388.316 265.047260.877
+splenda.rustyte 99.150.184.201 2 u 39 64 377 409.798 277.070309.525
+kiri.nonexiste. 64.34.180.101 3 u 40 64 377 68.400 127.708308.037
*smtp.housefront 198.72.72.10 3 u 37 64 377 88.059 121.465240.557
wuarchive.wustl .INIT. 16 u - 64 0 0.000 0.0000.000
gilbreth.ecn.pu .INIT. 16 u - 64 0 0.000 0.0000.000
10.10.10.10 .INIT. 16 u - 64 0 0.000 0.0000.000
+otc2.psu.edu 128.118.2.33 2 u 46 64 377 194.937 193.023205.449
+cudns.cit.corne 128.118.25.12 2 u 54 64 377 46.661 130.277144.958
Hopefully, after it has been running for a while, it will settle down
and you will see smaller offset and jitter values and as that happens
the poll values should rise from 64 to 1024.
--
Bob Cox. Stoke Gifford, near Bristol, UK.
Please reply to the list only. Do NOT send copies directly to me.
Debian on the NSLU2: http://bobcox.com/slug/
On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 8:00 AM, Sonny Jordan <sonnyrme2@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Just want to say I have been slowly & patiently waiting for the stabledownload
release of 'Lenny".
I have been trying others for fun. I decided tonight to go ahead &
the testing release of the KDE Lenny. I AM SO GLAD Y'ALL DID NOT USE THEI
STUPID & PITIFUL 'PULSE AUDIO'.!!
I can actually hear my music with debian! I can also record Streamtuner!!
know it is not nice to mention names so I will just use the first letterof
other distros using Debian repos that really suck on the afore mentioned.I
have tried U, K, UUE & Mint(sorry) And only Mint Records But still cannotquick,Understandale,
adjust volume to hear it good..
I haveused Debian since around 3. I love Debian! It is
& easy! The Debian install stinks though. No live CD. Takes about 20 min.to
install. BUT it is worth it!
How long does it normally take to install desktops of other distros?
Love your KDE version so far! I hope it is on the stable release.
To all the people working on Debian...THANK YOU for the pleasure of being
able to use & say that Debian is my desktop!
Nice that you like Debian!
--
my place on the web:
floss-and-misc.blogspot.com
On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 12:32 AM, ghe <ghe@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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Maurício wrote:
I've realized most of my time in a computer I use
just an input/output line. (I don't even need a
vt100-like terminal, since I use 'ed' or 'sam' as
text-editors.) But I still need X because of
utf-8 fonts and anti-aliasing.
Is it possible to get that without X? Can I get
my text-only terminal to use utf-8 and nice fonts?
Define "nice" :-) It's possible to change the console font from huge to
civilized (don't remember how; last time I did that, it involved some
secret numbers on a grub menu line, I think), but you can't specify a
*really* nice variable spaced, anti-aliased PS1/TT font, AFAIK.
I bite the bullet and use X to get scrolling. Being able to get to those
2000 lines that just flew by can make life a lot easier.
- --
Glenn English
ghe@xxxxxxxxxxx
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Douglas A. Tutty wrote, on 2009-01-02 15:21:
I have four HP NetServer LPr PII/450 servers. Two of them have HP
NetRaid 1si hardware raid cards (the others have NetRaid-1 cards).
Have you posted this query to the HP business support forums? Registration
is required but fairly painless:
http://forums13.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/familyhome.do?familyId=118
On Thu, Jan 1, 2009 at 15:32, ghe <ghe@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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Maurício wrote:
I've realized most of my time in a computer I use
just an input/output line. (I don't even need a
vt100-like terminal, since I use 'ed' or 'sam' as
text-editors.) But I still need X because of
utf-8 fonts and anti-aliasing.
Is it possible to get that without X? Can I get
my text-only terminal to use utf-8 and nice fonts?
Define "nice" :-) It's possible to change the console font from huge to
civilized (don't remember how; last time I did that, it involved some
secret numbers on a grub menu line, I think), but you can't specify a
*really* nice variable spaced,
<snip>
There is nothing "nice" about variable width fonts on the CLI :-)
Cheers,
Kelly Clowers
On Thu, Jan 01, 2009 at 23:59:44 -0200, Daniel Cliff (
daniel.cliff.email@xxxxxxxxx) wrote:
On Thu, Jan 1, 2009 at 5:28 PM, Milan SKOCIC <milan.skocic@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
"F-Spot is meant to be an easy-to-use photo management
application. It allows for importing of your existing
photo collections, tagging photos with identifiers,
as well as doing simple edits of photos".
Personally I use it and I'm satisfied.
Milan.
I just tried it out and it's pretty nice, but I would like something
more specialized to transfer the pictures from the camera to a local
folder. Does anyone know if there is something like that?
Specifically, I would like to:
_ delete the pictures in the camera after successful file transfer (I
guess most people normally do that in order to take new pictures,
right?),
_ rename the files according to some pattern (eg 20090101_001.jpg,
20090101_002.jpg etc)
One way is to use a simple script to rename each image file to a date
and time based format, such as YYYYMMDD-HHMMSS.jpg based on the image's
EXIF data. These data can be extracted with, for example, exiftime,
which is part of the exiftags package.
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Please reply to the list only. Do NOT send copies directly to me.
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Howdy ,
I used to ssh tunnel's to overcome NAT problems and just for fun.
One of the thins is to do ssh -L portonmypc:NATip:NATport
user@sshServerInFrontofNat
This will bring the abiulty to use most of things.
The question is there a way to connect this kind of tunnel to fakeip ?
for example something in type of :
/etc/hosts
ip:port natedpc.somedomain natedpc
so you can use your laptop (pc ) without further edittions.
what i mean is that if i used (
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH_VPN ) type i would need to set it
on two or more pc the tun devices , but i wish to do all the settings on
one pc.
--
---==== Jabka Atu ===---
bsh83.blogspot.com
---=== Encryption is a way of life ===---
Sorry, turns out it was my bad. There was the wrong kernel installed in the
main partition, it was an xfs kernel instead of a ext4 kernel.
bottom line if anyone is interested. grub2 works with an ext4 root, you
need a
kernel with ext4 support (2.6.28 at least) in that partition, one that does
xfs
only will not work ;-)
On Thu, 1 Jan 2009 21:29:49 +0200
Micha Feigin <michf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
turns out the issue is ext4 which doesn't work with grub, but it doeswith
grub2. The problem is that the kernel seems to miss read the partition.system
I setup another partition to rescue my system so now I have
sda1: ext4 - original system
sda5: ext3 - small rescue system
grub2 installed on both (current is suppoesed to boot from sda1)
if I set in grub
set root=(hd0,5)
linux /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.28 root=/dev/sda1 ro
everything works fine
If I set
set root=(hd0,1)
linux /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.28 root=/dev/sda1 ro
I get a kernel panic: couldn't load root file system tried: xfs
any idea on how I can get the kernel to recognize that it has ext4 file
so that I can dump the rescue partition (i.e make the first option work)?now
Thanx
On Thu, 1 Jan 2009 13:22:32 +0200
Micha Feigin <michf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
After the last update grub started booting into the command line (shows
grub> ) and seems to ignore menu.lst. I managed to boot by setting
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.28
boot
I then tried to reinstall the kernel hoping that it would fix grub but
kernelwhen I try the same method to boot I get the error
Invalid or unsupported executable format
The drive is formated to ext4. grub worked after that but maybe the
was written in a different method now?
any ideas?
thanks
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