Re: how to migrate request-tracker database from sqlite3 to mysql

Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:


No, thank $DEITY. I had a couple of jobs involving Oracle, but I tend to
avoid anything were I have to deal with too much proprietary software.

I am using oracle at work and compiled tora with ora support. At this point
I wanted to install the export tool and that's how I found out what's going
on - _crazy_.


... so programmers can be kept buzzy :-) otherways we could have an AI
engine about 10 years ago.

Weak AI has existed for more than 10 years.

if a state machine with a bit of variations is kind of AI ... well the steam
engine was also kind of invention and progress for about a century....


Strong AI is still a pipe dream. It's not "just" a issue of time, we
don't
really have an idea what goes into a system like that. We don't know how
to imbue consciousness (or if that's just an illusion of complex
interactions) or even how to write a general learning system that can both
expand it's own scope with "meta"-assertions and operate both in
non-deterministic way and with incomplete information with
"fuzzy"-assertions.

We've got some really interesting research projects happening now and in
the
past. Some have seen commercial applications. Japan has very interesting
specialty robots, but none driven by what anyone would consider a "strong"
AI.

I'm not even sure we want strong AI.

yes and no, what I mean that people get focused on stuff that shouldn't
matter and could be solved in the way w3c does it. We and commercials too
should focus on what's really important - education (from ai-it
perspective). this will bring us closer to real AI. It's just a matter of
time. do we want it sooner or later is our choice - or may be not.


functions are a big pain because PL/SQL is proprietary ... then there was
the pgSQL coming close to PL/SQL but not exactly ... and so on, so I'm
wondering where the world and we are going. especially open source
community could be more standard oriented.

That would be nice. I'd like to see more Free Software be certified, but
that usually costs $$$$, and doesn't always mesh well with the
Bazaar-style development that some projects use.

Perhaps we have to ask w3c to provide a markup for database and leave all
this "pretty close" sql sh*t.

Right, because every piece of HTML you see is strictly-conforming. W3C
hasn't done any better than any other standards organization.

so DTD for SQL :-)


However I learned years ago something useful about databases. You have to
plan the size, speed, scalability, functionality etc. _before_ you start
using whatever database.
You have to check export/import _before_ you start using whatever
database. You better simulate database corruption _before_ you start
using whatever database and so on.

You should really be doing that with any piece of software. If you can't
evaluate it, definitely don't spend any money on it. If you haven't
tested it, don't put it into production.

I mean databases turn to be critical at some point of time and it's usually
too late to think about migration. That's how $$ software get's sold.
The keyword is scalability.

regards


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