Re: "No devices found" in X



On 2010-12-20 18:40 +0100, Camaleón wrote:

On Mon, 20 Dec 2010 18:16:42 +0100, Sven Joachim wrote:

On 2010-12-20 17:42 +0100, Camaleón wrote:
Hummm, I wouldn't like to have an Intel VGA chipset nowadays O:-)

Why not? My (four years old) laptop has always worked fine, and Intel
chipsets are the only ones where free drivers for very new hardware
exist.

Why not? :-)

Because I'm seeing (one day and another, in this same list and in other
Debian lists) that Intel driver is failing (crashing) very often and
doesn't seem to provide an easy method to bypass these problems.

Basically there seem to be three classes of problems:

- Crashes and crash-like bugs like GPU lockups. If you look at the
hardware the reporters of these bugs have, in 99% of the cases it's an
old 8xxx chip, and those were _really_ crappy.

- Failure to load the -intel X video driver because KMS is disabled
(like in the current thread). This is a rather common
misconfiguration, but can usually be avoided easily.

- Black screen when the i915 kernel module loads. This happened even to
me some day¹, but the kernel developers are shaking out the KMS bugs,
so this should become less of a problem.

I like free drivers... if they "work". One thing is that you don't get
many FPS with your Intel card but another thing is that you cannot even
get into your desktop because xorg server is crashing on start-up.

I think you're overestimating the problems. And it's not like the
drivers (both the free and the proprietary ones) for Radeon and NVidia
cards have fewer bugs.

Sven


¹ https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15205


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