Re: [OT] can't see own post to the list



On 14/11/11 11:19, Dan B. wrote:
Scott Ferguson wrote:
On 13/11/11 16:14, Doug wrote:
...

GMail deliberately removes your own list messages so
you can't see them and know that you actually were successful in
posting.

Well, no.
Not that I have shares in Google - just a dislike for BS and trolls.
The gmail default settings is to *not* provide you with a duplicate in
Sent mail.

Why would there be a duplicate in _Sent_ mail?


Only the message you sent out should be in the Sent folder--the message
back from the mailing list is a different message (e.g., with added
mail-transfer header fields (e.g., Received), mailing list header fields
(e.g., List-ID), and modifications to the body (e.g., the mailing list
signature), and is not the message you sent out. Although it usually
contains almost everything from the original message (though not BCC
header fields), it is not a duplicate.

Are you serious?



A mailer shouldn't forcibly* treat the second message as a duplicate of
the first. (*That is, without giving the user a choice.)

It sounds like GMail/Google is judging whether a message was "Sent" by
the From: header field (or whatever) rather than by the simple fact of
whether it was actually sent (through GMail's mail-sending actions)
or received.

Gmail's reasons for the policy have been posted previously in this thread.


(A similar problem can also occur with BCC copies to oneself in some
mailers.)

Which would beg the question "why would anyone do that" - if I didn't
have better things to do, or a total lack of desire to understand the
"reasoning" of the insane. :-)

For the same reasons - it's a totally unnecessary waste of resources.
Not changed by the fact that some mentalities "don't get it".


Daniel



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