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Date: 01/23/04

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    You need to get the package with xft support. The package that appears most
    readily does not have it. You will have to look around the downloadpage for
    it.
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    > 1. Re: Testing new software (Telmo Silva)
    > 2. Re: Acrobat Reader 8 not working in FC1 (John Rehmert)
    > 3. RE: Acrobat Reader 8 not working in FC1 (John Rehmert)
    > 4. Re: Compilation general question -- FC1 in production (Justin
    Churchey)
    > 5. Re: help configuring spam assassin (Stephen Walton)
    > 6. Re: samba file server slow (Dennis Gilmore)
    > 7. Re: samba file server slow (Robin Laing)
    > 8. Re: Acrobat Reader 8 not working in FC1 (Chris Adams)
    > 9. Re: Apt built against rpm 4.3? (Panu Matilainen)
    > 10. Install Mozilla plugin (Telmo Silva)
    > 11. RE: RWyse60 Terminal Interface (David L Norris)
    > 12. Re: Install Mozilla plugin (Justin Churchey)
    > 13. Re: installing grub fails (Rick Stevens)
    > 14. Re: upgrading to fedora core 2 (STYMA, ROBERT E (ROBERT))
    > 15. Re: Install Mozilla plugin (don)
    > 16. Re: Install Mozilla plugin (Christoph Wickert)
    > 17. Re: RWyse60 Terminal Interface (Leonard den Ottolander)
    > 18. Re: installing grub fails (Rick Stevens)
    > 19. Re: Install Mozilla plugin (Mike Frisch)
    > 20. kernel 2.6.1+Nvidia twinview+fedora (of course) problem (Sergiu
    Giurgiu)
    > 21. RE: Acrobat Reader 8 not working in FC1 (Ko Pu)
    > 22. Re: Install Mozilla plugin (WA9ALS - John)
    > 23. RE: RWyse60 Terminal Interface (Brian Fahrlander)
    > 24. Re: problem removing Mozilla 1.4 which came with FC1 (Jeff Allison)
    > 25. Re: Install Mozilla plugin (Christoph Wickert)
    > 26. Re: Replacement for XMMS? (Stephan Schutter)
    > 27. Re: Install Mozilla plugin (Keith)
    > 28. Re: Acrobat Reader 8 not working in FC1 (Keith)
    > 29. Re: Install Mozilla plugin (Keith)
    > 30. Default Moz install: Pretty, custom built: jaggy (Sean Kennedy)
    > 31. performance tuning -- application start-up time (Fred Nastos)
    >
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    > Message: 1
    > From: Telmo Silva <tsilva@zmail.pt>
    > To: fedora-list@redhat.com
    > Subject: Re: Testing new software
    > Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 21:05:17 +0000
    > Reply-To: fedora-list@redhat.com
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    > Hi,
    >
    > you can had an entry like
    >
    > [updates-testing]
    > name=Fedora Core $releasever - $basearch - Unreleased Updates
    > baseurl=http://fedora.redhat.com/updates/testing/fedora-core-$releasever
    >
    > I think this should work!
    >
    >
    > Em Quinta 22 Janeiro 2004 20:56, o John Wendel escreveu:
    > > I've got a shiny new box that I'd like to use for testing the latest
    > > bleeding edge stuff.
    > >
    > > Can someone tell me what to add to yum.conf so it gets the test
    > > packages.
    > >
    > > Thanks,
    > >
    > > John
    >
    > - --
    > Telmo Silva
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    > Message: 2
    > Subject: Re: Acrobat Reader 8 not working in FC1
    > From: John Rehmert <john.rehmert@speakeasy.net>
    > To: fedora-list@redhat.com
    > Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 16:04:48 -0500
    > Reply-To: fedora-list@redhat.com
    >
    > On Thu, 2004-01-22 at 14:47, Chris Adams wrote:
    > > Once upon a time, john.rehmert@speakeasy.net
    <john.rehmert@speakeasy.net> said:
    > > > Is there a reason you're not using xpdf (X PDF Viewer) or gpdf (GNOME
    PDF
    > > > Viewer)?
    > >
    > > Maybe because they aren't all that good at reading PDFs, especially
    > > compared to Adobe Acrobat Reader? Last time I checked, xpdf doesn't
    > > have the form fill-out capability. It also doesn't render near as
    > > nicely as acroread (which makes reading harder on the eyes) and doesn't
    > > support rotating the page.
    > >
    > > --
    > > Chris Adams <cmadams@hiwaay.net>
    > > Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services
    > > I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble.
    > >
    > Thanks for expressing your opinion, but I was asking Ko Pu for reasons
    > for not using xpdf and/or gpdf. If there aren't any compelling reasons,
    > then xpdf and/or gpdf are great alternatives.
    >
    > - John
    >
    >
    >
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    > Message: 3
    > Subject: RE: Acrobat Reader 8 not working in FC1
    > From: John Rehmert <john.rehmert@speakeasy.net>
    > To: fedora-list@redhat.com
    > Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 16:06:01 -0500
    > Reply-To: fedora-list@redhat.com
    >
    > On Thu, 2004-01-22 at 14:47, Stephen Walton wrote:
    > > On Thu, 2004-01-22 at 11:31, john.rehmert@speakeasy.net wrote:
    > >
    > > > Is there a reason you're not using xpdf (X PDF Viewer) or gpdf (GNOME
    PDF
    > > > Viewer)?
    > >
    > > I don't pretend to speak for the original poster, but a partial list for
    > > me would include searching, bookmarks, and thumbnails, all of which are
    > > in Acroread but not in XPDF or gpdf.
    > >
    > Those would definitely be compelling reasons for installing Acrobat
    > Reader. If Ko needs those, then xpdf and gpdf are not even viable
    > options.
    >
    > - John
    >
    >
    >
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    > Message: 4
    > Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 13:08:56 -0800 (PST)
    > From: Justin Churchey <sajchurchey@yahoo.com>
    > Subject: Re: Compilation general question -- FC1 in production
    > To: fedora-list@redhat.com
    > Reply-To: fedora-list@redhat.com
    >
    > To answer your questions,
    >
    > Yes, both the CPU and the OS are important when
    > compiling source code (C/C++). It is insignificant
    > with interpreted languages, like python, and Java.
    > The number of CPUs only comes into play if you write
    > SMP compatible software in the first place.
    >
    > I know for a fact that Windows-compiled binaries will
    > not work in Linux and vice versa, but I'm not sure
    > about using the same binaries across different Linux
    > and other *nix machines.
    >
    > Check the information on your compiler, it may be
    > possible to compile source code to a different CPU/OS.
    >
    >
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    > Message: 5
    > Subject: Re: help configuring spam assassin
    > From: Stephen Walton <stephen.walton@csun.edu>
    > To: fedora-list@redhat.com
    > Organization: Dept. of Physics & Astronomy, Cal State Northridge
    > Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 13:14:35 -0800
    > Reply-To: fedora-list@redhat.com
    >
    > On Thu, 2004-01-22 at 12:42, Christoph Wickert wrote:
    >
    > > Am Do, den 22.01.2004 schrieb Stephen Walton um 20:43:
    > > > I realize
    > > > that the Mozilla tools work at the individual user level and not at
    the
    > > > server level, which was the original question.
    > >
    > > Spamassain does too: spamassassin = user app.
    >
    > Thanks for your help, and I know there are always lots of ways to do a
    > task in Linux, one of its strengths. But my posting was unclear. Here,
    > all of us read our e-mail while connected to the campus IMAP server, and
    > our mail remains on the server. So none of the suggestions here work
    > for us; our e-mail never goes through procmail (or whatever) on our FC1
    > systems. I'd agree that the ideal situation would be for our campus IT
    > folks to install a spam filter on the IMAP server itself, but they're
    > understaffed and overworked, and this just isn't high on their list.
    >
    > This is another entire discussion, but IMHO downloading all your e-mail
    > from an IMAP server to a local folder so procmail can handle it defeats
    > 90% of the advantages of IMAP over POP, so don't bother suggesting it.
    >
    > --
    > Stephen Walton <stephen.walton@csun.edu>
    > Dept. of Physics & Astronomy, Cal State Northridge
    >
    >
    >
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    >
    > Message: 6
    > From: Dennis Gilmore <dennis@dgilmore.net>
    > To: Jonathan Christison <jonbon_c@blueyonder.co.uk>,
    fedora-list@redhat.com
    > Subject: Re: samba file server slow
    > Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 07:16:33 +1000
    > Reply-To: fedora-list@redhat.com
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    > Once upon a time Friday 23 January 2004 6:38 am, Jonathan Christison
    wrote:
    > > thanks for every one's help last time about this but its still slow... i
    > > followed every ones advise and no change its still runs at 5mega bytes
    > > per second over a 100 mega bits per second hub
    > > then i realised when i was swaping files about on my fedora pc up stairs
    > > on gkrellm the server is using rx not tx but yet there is a small amount
    > > of tx packets flyin round my network.
    > > do i need to configure my network card to use TX-100base some how ?
    > > thanks for yore help again
    > >
    > > - Jonny
    >
    >
    > Are you using a Hub or Switch? if your using a hub as stated above you
    wil=
    > l=20
    > not get the full performance as only one machine can send traffic on the
    wi=
    > re=20
    > at a time so it has to stop and wait for ACK's is your network running
    ful=
    > l=20
    > duplex or half duplex?=20
    >
    > mii-tool
    > eth0: negotiated 100baseTx-FD flow-control, link ok
    >
    > you should get something like the above if you run mii-tool as root that
    is=
    > =20
    > 100Mbit per sec Full duplex =20
    >
    > Dennis
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    > Message: 7
    > Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 14:29:35 -0700
    > From: Robin Laing <Robin.Laing@drdc-rddc.gc.ca>
    > Organization: Defence R&D Canada - Suffield
    > To: fedora-list@redhat.com
    > Subject: Re: samba file server slow
    > Reply-To: fedora-list@redhat.com
    >
    > Jonathan Christison wrote:
    > > thanks for every one's help last time about this but its still slow... i
    > > followed every ones advise and no change its still runs at 5mega bytes
    > > per second over a 100 mega bits per second hub
    > > then i realised when i was swaping files about on my fedora pc up stairs
    > > on gkrellm the server is using rx not tx but yet there is a small amount
    > > of tx packets flyin round my network.
    > > do i need to configure my network card to use TX-100base some how ?
    > > thanks for yore help again
    > >
    > > - Jonny
    > >
    > >
    >
    > Don't confuse megabits and megabytes. You state both in the above.
    >
    > Look at <http://www.aplawrence.com/Words/2003_09_19.html> for a simple
    > description.
    >
    > 5megabytes * 8bits-per-byte = 40megabits.
    >
    > From your description you are transfering about 40megabits of data
    > per second which is close to the maximum of some harddrives. I would
    > say that your network card is working at 100Mbits per second. You may
    > be running into hardware limitations as well.
    >
    > There is overhead in working on a 100Base-TX network that will use up
    > extra bandwidth so a 10meg file may actually use 12meg of bandwidth.
    >
    > I have used a program called Netpipe to test network speeds. I havn't
    > seen an rpm for it yet.
    >
    > --
    > Robin Laing
    >
    >
    >
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    >
    > Message: 8
    > Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 15:29:41 -0600
    > From: Chris Adams <cmadams@hiwaay.net>
    > To: fedora-list@redhat.com
    > Subject: Re: Acrobat Reader 8 not working in FC1
    > Reply-To: fedora-list@redhat.com
    >
    > Once upon a time, John Rehmert <john.rehmert@speakeasy.net> said:
    > > Thanks for expressing your opinion, but I was asking Ko Pu for reasons
    > > for not using xpdf and/or gpdf.
    >
    > And I (and others) responded with compelling reasons.
    >
    > > If there aren't any compelling reasons,
    > > then xpdf and/or gpdf are great alternatives.
    >
    > That is your opinion, which you are also free to express.
    > --
    > Chris Adams <cmadams@hiwaay.net>
    > Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services
    > I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble.
    >
    >
    >
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    >
    > Message: 9
    > Subject: Re: Apt built against rpm 4.3?
    > From: Panu Matilainen <pmatilai@welho.com>
    > To: fedora-list@redhat.com
    > Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 23:34:09 +0200
    > Reply-To: fedora-list@redhat.com
    >
    > On Thu, 2004-01-15 at 17:05, Mark Heslep wrote:
    > > Can anybody point to an Apt built against the 4.3 rpm thats out in
    > > development / rawhide now? Most current Apt I can find demands a 4.2
    > > rpm library. Also I tried rebuilding apt from the srouce rpm on Dag's
    > > site but it fails to build on fedora looking for '-lselinux'.
    >
    > In case you haven't already figured it out: you need to have
    > libselinux-devel package installed to build apt on against the current
    > development tree.
    >
    > - Panu -
    >
    >
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    > Message: 10
    > From: Telmo Silva <tsilva@zmail.pt>
    > To: fedora-list@redhat.com
    > Subject: Install Mozilla plugin
    > Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 21:34:00 +0000
    > Reply-To: fedora-list@redhat.com
    >
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    > Hi,
    >
    > I tried to install Macromedia Flash Mozilla plugin, but it keeps asking me
    the
    > installation directory of mozilla, and I can't seem to find it. Anyone
    knows
    > where is mozilla insttaled on Fedora Core?
    >
    > Thanks
    > - --
    > Telmo Silva
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    > Message: 11
    > Subject: RE: RWyse60 Terminal Interface
    > From: David L Norris <dave@webaugur.com>
    > To: fedora list <fedora-list@redhat.com>
    > Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 16:29:51 -0500
    > Reply-To: fedora-list@redhat.com
    >
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    > On Thu, 2004-01-22 at 10:24, Greg Ennis wrote:
    > > Tiny Term does have a product with a Wyse60
    > > interface for Linux systems but it does not allow 'on the fly'
    programmin=
    > g
    > > of the special function keys, and has some other hard coded problems
    that
    > > can not be fixed by changing parameter files.
    >
    > Maybe PuTTY can do it? It works on Windows and Linux. It has a SCO
    > mode under terminal options.
    >
    > PuTTY website:
    > http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
    >
    > Dag Wieers has a Fedora RPM available here:
    > http://dag.wieers.com/packages/putty/
    >
    > --=20
    > David Norris
    > http://www.webaugur.com/dave/
    > ICQ - 412039
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    > Message: 12
    > Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 13:40:11 -0800 (PST)
    > From: Justin Churchey <sajchurchey@yahoo.com>
    > Subject: Re: Install Mozilla plugin
    > To: fedora-list@redhat.com
    > Reply-To: fedora-list@redhat.com
    >
    > You should be able to install the plugin directly into
    > the /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins folder this should be the
    > libflashplayer.so file (or some other similar *.so
    > file) when you unpackage the tarball.
    >
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    >
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    >
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    > Message: 13
    > Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 13:42:12 -0800
    > From: Rick Stevens <rstevens@vitalstream.com>
    > To: fedora-list@redhat.com
    > Subject: Re: installing grub fails
    > Reply-To: fedora-list@redhat.com
    >
    > Telmo Silva wrote:
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    > > Hi,
    > >
    > > Don't know if it works has I've not tryed it. I think grub renames the
    > > partitions, so hda in grub is labeled as hd0. So try with hd0 as the
    > > parameter.
    > >
    > > Em Quinta 22 Janeiro 2004 18:37, o Diosnel Herrnsdorf escreveu:
    > >
    > >>On Thu, 2004-01-22 at 14:27, Linux4life wrote:
    > >>
    > >>>Hi,
    > >>>running the command
    > >>>
    > >>>grub-install /dev/hda
    > >>>
    > >>>fails and prints an error message
    > >>>
    > >>>/dev/hda does not have any corresponding BIOS ...
    > >>>
    > >>>Does anyone know what is wrong?
    > >>>Thanks,
    > >>>Ivo
    > >>
    > >>Try /dev/hda1 (your hard disk has at least two partitions and you need
    > >>to tell the program in which one you want to install it)
    > >>
    > >>Regards,
    > >>
    > >>Diosnel
    > >
    > >
    > > - --
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    >
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    > - -
    > - Okay, who put a "stop payment" on my reality check? -
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    > Message: 14
    > From: "STYMA, ROBERT E (ROBERT)" <stymar@lucent.com>
    > To: fedora-list@redhat.com
    > Subject: Re: upgrading to fedora core 2
    > Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 15:42:45 -0600
    > Reply-To: fedora-list@redhat.com
    >
    >
    > >>Rodolfo J. Paiz wrote:
    > >> At 09:03 1/22/2004, you wrote:
    > >>
    > >>> In practice, there are some [issues with upgrading from RHL to Fedora
    > >>> via apt/yum]:
    > >>>
    > >>> http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2004-January/msg02421.html
    > >>
    > >> The original question was about upgrading from FC1 to FC2 via apt/yum.
    I
    > >> think the original answer of "in theory, no problem" may or may not be
    > >> right but is reasonable. The fact that X or Y problem existed upgrading
    > >> from a previous (not even the latest) version of RHL is not relevant to
    > >> that question, nor does it imply that the same problems will continue
    to
    > >> exist.
    > >
    > >Yes, that is true. And in fact I get the impression few people have had
    > >trouble with "yum upgrade"s so far. But I merely report the fact some
    > >people have pointed out that problems are theoretically possible.
    > >
    > >The article I quoted doesn't refer to problems with a previous upgrade,
    > >it discusses the issues that *are* likely to arise in the future.
    > >Specifically, if there is a major update of Python or glibc or anything
    > >else that yum (or up2date or apt) depends upon that causes it to break
    > >during the upgrade process, you're up the proverbial creek (at least
    > >until you pop in the CD and fire up anaconda).
    > >
    > >It might not happen; it appears not to have happened for 8 -> 9 or
    > >9 -> FC1. But it *could* happen in the future, and AFAIK the developers
    > >haven't designed a system to specifically prevent it. (Please correct
    > >me if I'm wrong!)
    > >
    > >--
    > > Matt
    >
    > This sort of problem can happen any time pieces of the tool doing the
    updating
    > might get updated. A decision would have to be made by the person
    maintaining
    > yum (or up2date or apt) to link that program together statically. This
    way you
    > would be either running the new copy or the old copy of the updater, but
    never
    > pieces of both. On many UNIX flavors /sbin/sh is set up this way, so that
    root
    > can get in even if the system is pretty trashed.
    >
    >
    >
    > --__--__--
    >
    > Message: 15
    > From: don <don@drussell.dnsalias.com>
    > Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 13:47:42 -0800 (PST)
    > Subject: Re: Install Mozilla plugin
    > To: fedora-list@redhat.com
    > Reply-To: fedora-list@redhat.com
    >
    > Telmo Silva said:
    > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
    > > Hash: SHA1
    > >
    > > Hi,
    > >
    > > I tried to install Macromedia Flash Mozilla plugin, but it keeps asking
    me
    > > the
    > > installation directory of mozilla, and I can't seem to find it. Anyone
    > > knows
    > > where is mozilla insttaled on Fedora Core?
    >
    > Use the "whereis" command...
    > whereis mozilla
    >
    >
    >
    > --__--__--
    >
    > Message: 16
    > Subject: Re: Install Mozilla plugin
    > From: Christoph Wickert <christoph.wickert@web.de>
    > To: fedora-list <fedora-list@redhat.com>
    > Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 22:53:53 +0100
    > Reply-To: fedora-list@redhat.com
    >
    > Am Do, den 22.01.2004 schrieb Telmo Silva um 22:34:
    > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
    > > Hash: SHA1
    > >
    > > Hi,
    > >
    > > I tried to install Macromedia Flash Mozilla plugin, but it keeps asking
    me the
    > > installation directory of mozilla, and I can't seem to find it. Anyone
    knows
    > > where is mozilla insttaled on Fedora Core?
    >
    > /usr/lib/mozilla, but why not use the FC1 rpm from
    > http://macromedia.mplug.org/
    >
    > More info: http://fedora.artoo.net/faq/#Flash
    >
    > Christoph
    >
    >
    >
    > --__--__--
    >
    > Message: 17
    > Subject: Re: RWyse60 Terminal Interface
    > From: Leonard den Ottolander <leonard@den.ottolander.nl>
    > To: Fedora List <fedora-list@redhat.com>
    > Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 22:56:03 +0100
    > Reply-To: fedora-list@redhat.com
    >
    > Hello Greg,
    >
    > You might want to join the ncurses mailing list (see
    > http://www.gnu.org/directory/GNU/ncurses.html). Thomas Dickey is also
    > the maintainer of terminfo, so I guess you can ask question relating to
    > terminal issues on bug-ncurses@gnu.org as well.
    >
    > Bye,
    > Leonard.
    >
    > --
    > mount -t life -o ro /dev/dna /genetic/research
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > --__--__--
    >
    > Message: 18
    > Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 13:58:30 -0800
    > From: Rick Stevens <rstevens@vitalstream.com>
    > To: fedora-list@redhat.com
    > Subject: Re: installing grub fails
    > Reply-To: fedora-list@redhat.com
    >
    > Oops! Hit "Send" too soon. Please ignore my previous post.
    >
    > Telmo Silva wrote:
    > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
    > > Hash: SHA1
    > >
    > > Hi,
    > >
    > > Don't know if it works has I've not tryed it. I think grub renames the
    > > partitions, so hda in grub is labeled as hd0. So try with hd0 as the
    > > parameter.
    >
    > Bottom post, guys, please!
    >
    > grub-install uses Linux device names (/dev/hda, etc.), NOT BIOS names
    > (hd0,0). grub uses BIOS names internally.
    >
    > > Em Quinta 22 Janeiro 2004 18:37, o Diosnel Herrnsdorf escreveu:
    > >
    > >>On Thu, 2004-01-22 at 14:27, Linux4life wrote:
    > >>
    > >>>Hi,
    > >>>running the command
    > >>>
    > >>>grub-install /dev/hda
    > >>>
    > >>>fails and prints an error message
    > >>>
    > >>>/dev/hda does not have any corresponding BIOS ...
    > >>>
    > >>>Does anyone know what is wrong?
    > >>>Thanks,
    > >>>Ivo
    > >>
    > >>Try /dev/hda1 (your hard disk has at least two partitions and you need
    > >>to tell the program in which one you want to install it)
    >
    > No, that will install it to the partition, not the MBR.
    >
    > The error message indicates that the BIOS doesn't know about the drive.
    > This IS an IDE drive, isn't it? We'd need to see your drive layout to
    > better answer this.
    > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
    > - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens@vitalstream.com -
    > - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com -
    > - -
    > - Okay, who put a "stop payment" on my reality check? -
    > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
    >
    >
    >
    > --__--__--
    >
    > Message: 19
    > Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 17:00:13 -0500
    > From: Mike Frisch <mfrisch@isurfer.ca>
    > To: fedora-list@redhat.com
    > Subject: Re: Install Mozilla plugin
    > Reply-To: fedora-list@redhat.com
    >
    > On Thu, Jan 22, 2004 at 09:34:00PM +0000, Telmo Silva wrote:
    > > I tried to install Macromedia Flash Mozilla plugin, but it keeps
    > > asking me the installation directory of mozilla, and I can't seem to
    > > find it. Anyone knows where is mozilla insttaled on Fedora Core?
    >
    > Whenever you run in the issue of not knowing where something is
    > installed, just view the contents of the RPM:
    >
    > rpm -ql mozilla
    >
    > >From that you can see where mozilla resides when it's installed.
    >
    >
    >
    > --__--__--
    >
    > Message: 20
    > Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 21:56:25 +0200
    > From: Sergiu Giurgiu <gsergiu@rdslink.ro>
    > To: fedora-list@redhat.com
    > Subject: kernel 2.6.1+Nvidia twinview+fedora (of course) problem
    > Reply-To: fedora-list@redhat.com
    >
    > Hi,
    > I don't know if this is the most appropriate place to ask this question,
    > since i believe is not related with fedora only, but with kernel 2.6.1
    > and/or nvidia latest drivers, but i desperate need some help.
    > since i've installed kernel 2.6.1 (i didn't try with 2.6.0 or the -testx
    > series) whenever i try to enable tv-out (in clone mode usually), and
    > startx the monitor is blank, and instead the images appear on TV only.
    > Why is this happening. what can i do about it (i need my monitor so i
    > can start the programs, mplayer to be exact, with the right options, and
    > not to be forced to go to the TV, witch is 5 meters away, to see what
    > i've typed). Does anybody knows about this problem??? What can i do
    > about it (except booting with 2.4 kernel)?
    >
    > Here is the relevant part from my XF86config file:
    > Section "Monitor"
    > Identifier "Monitor0"
    > VendorName "Monitor Vendor"
    > ModelName "Monitor Model"
    > HorizSync 30-85
    > VertRefresh 48-120
    > Option "dpms"
    > EndSection
    >
    > Section "Device"
    > # no known options
    > Identifier "NVIDIA GeForce 4 (generic)"
    > Driver "nvidia"
    > VendorName "NVIDIA GeForce 4 (generic)"
    > BoardName "NVIDIA GeForce 4 (generic)"
    > Option "NoLogo" "on"
    > Option "TwinView" "on"
    > Option "SecondMonitorHorizSync" "30-50"
    > Option "SecondMonitorVertRefresh" "60"
    > Option "MetaModes" "1024x768,1024x768;800x600,800x600"
    > #Option "MetaModes" "800x600,800x600"
    > Option "TwinViewOrientation" "Clone"
    > Option "ConnectedMonitor" "CRT,TV"
    > Option "TVStandard" "PAL-B"
    > Option "TVOutFormat" "COMPOSITE"
    > BusID "PCI:1:0:0"
    > Option "CursorShadow" "on"
    > #Option "NvAGP" "1"
    > EndSection
    >
    > Section "Screen"
    > Identifier "Screen0"
    > Device "NVIDIA GeForce 4 (generic)"
    > Monitor "Monitor0"
    > DefaultDepth 16
    >
    > Subsection "Display"
    > Depth 16
    > Modes "1280x1024" "1152x864" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
    > EndSubsection
    > EndSection
    >
    >
    > Thank you very much for your time.
    > Sergiu.
    >
    >
    >
    > --__--__--
    >
    > Message: 21
    > From: "Ko Pu" <ko_pu@hotmail.com>
    > To: fedora-list@redhat.com
    > Subject: RE: Acrobat Reader 8 not working in FC1
    > Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 14:08:10 -0800
    > Reply-To: fedora-list@redhat.com
    >
    > Thanks so much for all your replies, I downloaded the 5.07 file from
    > http://dag.wieers.com/packages/acroread/, installed it and it's working
    > fine. Thanks again for all of your help.
    >
    > Thanks in advance for your comment/suggestion
    >
    > Ko Fei Pu
    > mailto:ko_pu@nospamhotmail.com
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > >From: Marius Andreiana <mandreiana@rdslink.ro>
    > >Reply-To: fedora-list@redhat.com
    > >To: fedora <fedora-list@redhat.com>
    > >Subject: RE: Acrobat Reader 8 not working in FC1
    > >Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 22:16:54 +0200
    > >
    > >On Thu, 2004-01-22 at 21:31, john.rehmert@speakeasy.net wrote:
    > > > -->
    > > > --> Has anybody succeded in making AR5.08 working under FC1? I
    > > > --> downloaded the
    > > > --> file from Adobe and installed several times, but it still
    > > > --> won't work.
    > >get a rpm whenever possible
    > >google gives this
    > >http://dag.wieers.com/packages/acroread/
    > >you want the ones wih 'fc1' and 'i386' in filename
    > >
    > > > Is there a reason you're not using xpdf (X PDF Viewer) or gpdf (GNOME
    > >PDF
    > > > Viewer)?
    > >adobe is simply much more comfortable to use. It has bookmarks, you can
    > >read documents by pressing page-down and not miss anything (gnome pdf
    > >moves an entire page, even if it doesn't fit into screen), printing
    > >works as expected, rendering is faster.
    > >
    > >This is an example where 'simple' proprietary applications are better
    > >than open source ones, which usually don't have some basic features
    > >(copy-paste working properly, or Search in nautilus text view).
    > >
    > >A good example where OSS is better than proprietary at simple desktop
    > >applications is gaim vs. yahoo messenger (which on linux sucks at
    > >usability and features).
    > >
    > >Unfortunately criticism like this, coming from regular end-users, is
    > >usually not well received by OSS developers (ignored or "do it
    > >yourself")
    > >
    > >--
    > >Marius Andreiana
    > >Galuna - Solutii Linux in Romania
    > >http://www.galuna.ro
    > >
    > >
    > >--
    > >fedora-list mailing list
    > >fedora-list@redhat.com
    > >To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
    >
    > _________________________________________________________________
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    >
    >
    >
    > --__--__--
    >
    > Message: 22
    > Subject: Re: Install Mozilla plugin
    > From: WA9ALS - John <ham_reflectors@wa9als.com>
    > To: fedora-list@redhat.com
    > Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 17:24:24 -0500
    > Reply-To: fedora-list@redhat.com
    >
    > On Thu, 2004-01-22 at 16:40, Justin Churchey wrote:
    > > You should be able to install the plugin directly into
    > > the /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins folder this should be the
    > > libflashplayer.so file (or some other similar *.so
    > > file) when you unpackage the tarball.
    > >
    > > =====
    > >
    > >
    > > Justin Churchey
    > >
    > > sajchurchey@yahoo.com
    > >
    > >
    > > Check out My Website: http://sajchurchey.htmlplanet.com
    > > Join the Forums: http://www.computertechnology2k.com
    > >
    > > __________________________________
    > > Do you Yahoo!?
    > > Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it!
    > > http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ps/sb/
    > >
    >
    > I'm having the same problem right now. My working java plugin is in
    > /usr/lib/mozilla-1.4.1/plugins, so I directed flash installer to put it
    > there. No errors, but when I check About Plugins, it's not there.
    > (Following instructions at the Macromedia site.) - John
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > --__--__--
    >
    > Message: 23
    > Subject: RE: RWyse60 Terminal Interface
    > From: Brian Fahrlander <Brian@fahrlander.net>
    > To: Fedora List <fedora-list@redhat.com>
    > Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 16:22:04 -0600
    > Reply-To: fedora-list@redhat.com
    >
    >
    > --=-lqbcLoNmz4YLQUHsYwH1
    > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
    > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
    >
    > On Thu, 2004-01-22 at 15:29, David L Norris wrote:
    >
    > > Maybe PuTTY can do it? It works on Windows and Linux. It has a SCO
    > > mode under terminal options.
    > >=20
    > > PuTTY website:
    > > http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
    > >=20
    > > Dag Wieers has a Fedora RPM available here:
    > > http://dag.wieers.com/packages/putty/
    >
    > Wait....there's a linux version of putty? That's a new one on me.=20
    > Putty's good...it has SSH abilities...I can honestly say, though, that I
    > never looked to see if it had simple telnet.
    >
    > Good call, Dave!
    >
    > --=20
    > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
    > Brian Fahrl=C3=A4nder Researcher, Conservative, and
    Technom=
    > ad
    > Evansville, IN http://Fahrlander.net
    > ICQ 5119262 Microsoft never invented email; that was Unix.
    > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
    >
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    >
    >
    > --__--__--
    >
    > Message: 24
    > Subject: Re: problem removing Mozilla 1.4 which came with FC1
    > From: Jeff Allison <jeff.allison@allygray.2y.net>
    > To: fedora-list@redhat.com
    > Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 09:41:57 +1100
    > Reply-To: fedora-list@redhat.com
    >
    > I had this problem removing mozilla on two machines on one I removed
    > both mozilla and open-office and mozilla and install open office using
    > the installer from their site and on the other I left mozilla installed
    > and added it to the hold list in apt. I don't appear to be missing any
    > functionality. (By the way firebird is my browser of choice.)
    >
    > Jeff
    >
    >
    >
    > --__--__--
    >
    > Message: 25
    > Subject: Re: Install Mozilla plugin
    > From: Christoph Wickert <christoph.wickert@web.de>
    > To: fedora-list <fedora-list@redhat.com>
    > Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 23:43:25 +0100
    > Reply-To: fedora-list@redhat.com
    >
    > Am Do, den 22.01.2004 schrieb WA9ALS - John um 23:24:
    >
    > >
    > > I'm having the same problem right now. My working java plugin is in
    > > /usr/lib/mozilla-1.4.1/plugins,
    >
    > 1. use /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins (not mozilla-<version>), this is where
    > mozilla is looking for plugins.
    >
    > 2. Why not use the rpms???
    > http://dag.wieers.com/packages/j2re/j2re-1.4.2-4.rhfc1.dag.i586.rpm
    > and
    >
    http://macromedia.mplug.org/apt/fedora/1/RPMS.macromedia/flash-plugin-6.0.79-2.i386.rpm
    >
    > no more configuration necessary.
    >
    > Please read the FAQs, thats's what they are for...
    > http://fedora.artoo.net/faq/#Java
    > http://fedora.artoo.net/faq/#Flash
    >
    > And perhaps you should also search the archives of this list.
    >
    > Christoph
    >
    >
    >
    > --__--__--
    >
    > Message: 26
    > Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 16:54:25 -0600 (CST)
    > From: Stephan Schutter <rhl@farorbit.com>
    > To: fedora-list@redhat.com
    > Subject: Re: Replacement for XMMS?
    > Reply-To: fedora-list@redhat.com
    >
    > go to freshrpms.net and install apt...
    > apt-get update
    > apt-get install synaptic
    >
    >
    > then don't use up2date anymore...
    >
    > select the packages that you want there. There are a lot of additional
    > sources that you can add as well..
    >
    >
    >
    > On Wed, 21 Jan 2004, Mike Klinke wrote:
    >
    > > On Wednesday 21 January 2004 21:17, Brian Hartman wrote:
    > > > On Wed, 2004-01-21 at 22:11, Mike Klinke wrote:
    > > >
    > > > Admittedly, I didn't look at the package list, but when I tried to
    > > > run the command, I received the message:
    > > >
    > > > "Due to patent licensing, and conflicts between such patent
    > > > licenses and the licenses of application source code, MPEG-1/2
    > > > audio layer 3 (MP3) support has been removed from this application
    > > > by Red Hat, Inc. We apologize for this inconvenience."
    > > >
    > >
    > > Ah, you're looking for a different xmms RPM than the one provided.
    > >
    > > Stand by, I'm sure someone will pipe up and point out the solution as
    > > I'm pretty sure I've seen this addressed in the past. Have you
    > > searched the archives?
    > >
    > > http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=fedora-list&r=1&w=2
    > >
    > >
    > > Regards, Mike Klinke
    > >
    > >
    > >
    >
    >
    >
    > --__--__--
    >
    > Message: 27
    > Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 15:00:11 -0800 (PST)
    > From: Keith <ac7xc-lnx@earthlink.net>
    > To: fedora-list@redhat.com
    > Subject: Re: Install Mozilla plugin
    > Organization: http://kilowatt-radio.org NW OR Radio Page
    > Reply-To: fedora-list@redhat.com
    >
    > On Thu, 22 Jan 2004, Telmo Silva wrote:
    >
    > > Hi,
    > >
    > > I tried to install Macromedia Flash Mozilla plugin, but it keeps asking
    me the
    > > installation directory of mozilla, and I can't seem to find it. Anyone
    knows
    > > where is mozilla insttaled on Fedora Core?
    > >
    > > Thanks
    >
    > locate mozilla
    >
    >
    > --
    > Best Regards, Keith
    > NW Oregon Radio http://kilowatt-radio.org/
    > http://linux.com http://freebsd.org http://apple.com
    >
    >
    >
    > --__--__--
    >
    > Message: 28
    > Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 15:03:34 -0800 (PST)
    > From: Keith <ac7xc-lnx@earthlink.net>
    > To: fedora-list@redhat.com
    > Subject: Re: Acrobat Reader 8 not working in FC1
    > Organization: http://kilowatt-radio.org NW OR Radio Page
    > Reply-To: fedora-list@redhat.com
    >
    > On Thu, 22 Jan 2004, Ko Pu wrote:
    >
    > > Has anybody succeded in making AR5.08 working under FC1? I downloaded
    the
    > > file from Adobe and installed several times, but it still won't work. I
    even
    > > tried to just open the application in both locations
    > > (/usr/local/Acrobat5/Reader/intellinux/bin/acroread and
    > > /usr/local/Acrobat5/bin/acroread) but nothing happened, is there
    anything
    > > that I need to do? I think if this part is not working, the plugin won't
    > > work either.
    > >
    > > Thanks in advance for your comment/suggestion
    >
    >
    > Have you tried running the program from a gnome-terminal, xterm or KDE
    > Konsole command line? Any errors will be listed if the start up fails.
    > One thing to check is the permissions and ownership for the files.
    >
    >
    > --
    > Best Regards, Keith
    > NW Oregon Radio http://kilowatt-radio.org/
    > http://linux.com http://freebsd.org http://apple.com
    >
    >
    >
    > --__--__--
    >
    > Message: 29
    > Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 15:06:35 -0800 (PST)
    > From: Keith <ac7xc-lnx@earthlink.net>
    > To: RedHat FEDORA Group <fedora-list@redhat.com>
    > Subject: Re: Install Mozilla plugin
    > Organization: http://kilowatt-radio.org NW OR Radio Page
    > Reply-To: fedora-list@redhat.com
    >
    > On Thu, 22 Jan 2004, Keith wrote:
    >
    > > On Thu, 22 Jan 2004, Telmo Silva wrote:
    > >
    > > > Hi,
    > > >
    > > > I tried to install Macromedia Flash Mozilla plugin, but it keeps
    asking me the
    > > > installation directory of mozilla, and I can't seem to find it. Anyone
    knows
    > > > where is mozilla insttaled on Fedora Core?
    > > >
    > > > Thanks
    > >
    > > locate mozilla
    > >
    >
    > Sorry, you should type 'locate mozilla' on the command line.
    >
    >
    > --
    > Best Regards, Keith
    > NW Oregon Radio http://kilowatt-radio.org/
    > http://linux.com http://freebsd.org http://apple.com
    >
    >
    >
    > --__--__--
    >
    > Message: 30
    > Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 15:12:51 -0800
    > From: Sean Kennedy <skennedy@tpno.org>
    > To: fedora-list@redhat.com
    > Subject: Default Moz install: Pretty, custom built: jaggy
    > Reply-To: fedora-list@redhat.com
    >
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    > Ok, this is probably a small thing, but damn it, I want it pretty!
    >
    > So the default install of FC1 has a 1.4 moz install that has non-jaggy
    > fonts. I want the latest version of Moz, so I download and install it,
    > but the fonts here are very jaggy.
    >
    > Can someone tell me how to make the new version look like the old
    > version, and why this is like it is?
    >
    > Thank you
    >
    > Sean
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    >
    >
    > --__--__--
    >
    > Message: 31
    > From: Fred Nastos <nastos@physics.utoronto.ca>
    > To: fedora-list@redhat.com
    > Subject: performance tuning -- application start-up time
    > Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 18:17:13 -0500
    > Reply-To: fedora-list@redhat.com
    >
    > Hi,
    >
    > I just installed Fedora Core 1 on a system with an
    > Athlon XP 2500+ on an ASUS A7V600 motherboard, with
    > 512 MB PC3200 400MHz RAM, and Maxtor 120G
    > A133/7200RPM hard disk.
    >
    > I followed some hints on here:
    > http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2003-December/msg02148.html
    > to get the ethernet recognized and network working.
    >
    > The only problem I have now is that it takes a noticeably long
    > time for applications to start up, and I'm not talking about
    > apps like OpenOffice. For example, it takes about 8 seconds
    > for konsole or terminal to startup. Once the apps start-up they
    > are as responsive as I'd expect.
    >
    > I searched the list, and I've seen a lot of comments that getting
    > RPMs built on Athlons doesn't getting the execution speed much,
    > but could they help the start-up times? I'd just go ahead and check
    > myself, but I can't seem to find anywhere where I can find such
    > rpms for Fedora. Must I roll my own?
    >
    > On another Athlon XP 2500, but on an ASUS A7V8X motherboard
    > and again with 512 MB RAM (PC2700 333 MHz) and a Maxtor
    > (80G A133/7200RPM), the application start-up times are very
    > impressive. Since the only major difference between the systems
    > is the motherboard (the video cards are the same also), could the
    > motherboard possibly be the reason?
    >
    > Also, on two intels, and old athlon 1200, again Fedora shines.
    >
    > Thanks for any input.
    >
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