Re: Minimum requirements for install? (Sorry if this is a dup)

From: Aaron Konstam (akonstam_at_trinity.edu)
Date: 03/19/04

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    Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 16:03:30 -0600
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    On Fri, Mar 19, 2004 at 10:54:55AM -0600, Rodolfo J. Paiz wrote:
    > At 10:25 3/19/2004, you wrote:
    > >I was feeling masochistic last night so I tried an install on a
    > >machine with 32MB of ram. What a disaster. It depends on the speed of
    > >the processor but I would not install FC1 on a machine with less than
    > >256MB of ram, and I don't care what the requirements say.
    >
    > You cannot make generalizations like that about Linux and not expect to get
    > shot down for it, since they simply *are not true*. It just depends on
    > matching the software to the hardware to the user. You were trying to load
    > a GUI, a graphical browser, and office apps on 32MB of RAM... please find
    > *ANY* operating system released within the last five years which will run
    > on that hardware and then come back to complain.
    >
    > For example: I have 8 servers now running Fedora Core 1 on Pentium/166
    > chips, with 32MB of RAM, and 1GB hard drives. The smallest network has
    > three clients and the largest has about 30 clients. In all cases, the
    > server provides firewall/masquerading/gateway services, DHCP, DNS, NTP,
    > printer sharing with CUPS, and master browser/Netbios name resolution
    > service via Samba (no actual file sharing). Two or three of these servers
    > will also soon provide VPN connectivity to branch offices. Very useful
    > boxes, these... very successful implementation of the most up-to-date Linux
    > distro around on ancient and obsolete hardware.
    >
    > Why does it work? Text mode (runlevel 3), minimal installs, all unnecessary
    > cruft removed, all possible services shut down save what is truly necessary
    > (kudzu, gpm, and others are shut down too), tight configuration, and...
    > most importantly... requirements which make sense.
    >
    > You can make an excellent operating system, but it won't work miracles.
    > Expecting a 2004 operating system with a full load of applications,
    > including Evolution, Mozilla, and OpenOffice, to run on 1994 hardware is
    > just silly. That OS, and those applications, have been built and tuned for
    > what users require today, and most of those users have much faster
    > processors, better graphics adapters, more RAM, etc. and thus want more
    > features, more simultaneous tasks, and more eye candy.
    >
    > Match the requirements to the hardware, and Fedora Core will do you right.
    > Ask a stupid question, get a stupid answer.
    I agree with what is said above except that I made it clear I was
    talking about systems with everything installed. In my experiment I
    cut down on the installed packages and services it will work. But let
    talk about how long did the install on a 32MB machine will take. In my case
    about 8 hours. I agree it depends what you are doing . But the general
    answer is that 64 MB is not sufficient to run fedora with its
    improvements.

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