Re: Taming the mailing lists?

From: - Edwin - (copperwa11s_at_yahoo.co.jp)
Date: 05/01/04

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    (Not that this is all about "Taming the mailing lists" but...)

    On 2004/05/01, at 1:18, Joe(theWordy)Philbrook wrote:

    [...]

    > Your Right Edwin, Rodolfo replied to the quotes of what Tom said in my
    > reply... Doesn't bother me though, I agree with most of what he said.

    Okay...

    > Speaking of which, I don't know what filtering you use, but if it's
    > actually much easier to tell it to search the Subject: header for
    > "[FC]"
    > than to search for a Reply-To: header with "fedora-list@redhat.com" in
    > it, then I suggest you shop for a better mail filter.

    Huh? Better mail filter? Even crappy mail client can scan a Reply-To:
    header.

    > It's really not the lists fault if new arrivals don't yet know how to
    > filter messages. Besides which, if we add "[FC]" to the Subject: header
    > to make such manual/visual scanning slightly easier,

    Aha! you just said the magic phrase -- "slightly easier"... *that* was
    the main point.

    > we only prolong the
    > time that they will deny themselves the benefits of filtering, because
    > they 'think' it's harder to set up than to keep doing it manualy....

    And why do you think that they'll think *that* way? C'mon, by the time
    they figure out they can do something like that, they'll probably figure
    out how to do it in different ways. The idea is, if they were given a
    "visual hint" (e.g. something like [FC] on the subject line), then they
    would probably start thinking of "filtering" their messages...

    > What would be useful would be some how-to links in the welcome message.
    > (And possibly listed in a "useful-links" link added to the list
    > management
    > data appendage in case they didn't know they wanted to save the welcome
    > message.)

    Okay, now we're back on topic ;) Yeah, I'm sure something like that is
    needed. (Or, perhaps something like that sent once a week, etc.)

    > It would be good if the how-to links not only included beginner
    > tutorials
    > for server based filters. But some suggested settings for
    > {transitionally?}
    > using the filtering built into some "popular" mail clients including
    > <gag> outlook {for those stuck with a windows machine until they get
    > fedora working <wink>.}

    :)

    > That is, Make it easy for the beginner to implement some form of
    > filtering rather than making it easier to avoid.

    Well, that depends on how a person thinks...

    > Well that's my "2 cents"*10^"nth degree" worth anyway...

    My two centavos here ;)

    - E - 

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