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Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 18:07:34 +0300

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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 10:17:31 -0400
From: Sean Estabrooks <seanlkml@sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: "Starting mdmpd:  failed"
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On Wed, 26 May 2004 11:03:44 -0300
Ted Gervais <ve1drg@av.eastlink.ca> wrote:
> When I bring up FC2, I see "Starting mdmpd:  ....failed".
> What is that all about and how can I get that error out of there.
> 
> Everything else is so perfect, I just hate to see that 'failure'...
> 
Hey Ted,
Essentially it's the software RAID service.   If you're not using
it you can turn it off with:
# chkconfig mdmpd off
Or remove the mdadm rpm package altogether with:
# rpm -e mdadm
Cheers,
Sean
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 10:02:39 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Joe(theWordy)Philbrook" <jtwdyp@ttlc.net>
Subject: Re: converting to grub from lilo [DrDos on hdc1 not booting]
To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@redhat.com>
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It would appear that on May 25, Luciano Miguel Ferreira Rocha did say:
> On Tue, May 25, 2004 at 03:26:41AM -0400, Joe(theWordy)Philbrook wrote:
> > 1)bios lists the masters first, then the slaves?
> No. But it can report SCSI hard disks before ATA. Or after. Depends on 
> your boot order.
> 
> > 2)bios lists the harddrives then the cd drives?
> BIOS doesn't list cd drives as hard disks .:)
> 
> > 3)grub's "hd*" numbering scheme simply skips cd drives? In which case,
> >   what does grub call the durned things?
> 
> It doesn't call them anything. Grub can't boot from cdroms.
> 
> > 4)I'm completely clueless and should just sell my soul back to M$
> >   because I'm incapable of understanding anything... <whimper> ;)
> 
> Learning is a continuos process. Don't expect to know everything about 
> stuff you haven't used or examined before.
> 
> Anyway, the documentation always helps. (Section "Naming convention" 
> on grub's info page.)
I read this as possibility #3 was essentially correct.  Than goodness cause
if I was down to possibility #4 ( Which I included partly as humor and
partly because if none of the 1st three were even close, I would have had to
consider the possibility that my brain was malfunctioning.
And the only OS I know of that doesn't really want it's users to think is a
certain proprietary one.
Thank you for the kind words as well Luciano.  I don't expect to know
everything.  But sometimes I think I suffer from CRS {Can't Remember
Sh^Htuff} I'm not a linux newbie, but CRS will likely keep me from ever
being an expert...
<rant>
My biggest problem with becoming an expert at anything linux is that I NEED
a quick reference to remember anything I don't do a lot of. This means that
If I spend 2 hours researching something, and didn't remember to bookmark
each and every think that was new to me, when I go to do it, I won't
remember where I found any of the half remembered details, and may spend 10
hours looking without stumbling over the missing detail again. Often I find
the output of Man {or Info} to leave me unsure of several details that the
writer seamed to take for granted the reader would know. I can follow most
of it well enough that if only there were an abundance of examples that
showed more than one "normal joe user" use.
I'd often be able to just skim the rest, copy/paste/edit the examples and
get the task done.  As it is I'm usually stuck feeling like to understand
some point halfway through some doc I need to read 2 or three books to find
out what book contains the two line example I needed, and by that time I've
forgotten what I wanted to use it for, and so probably don't recognize it.
<sigh>
I don't think I think in pictures, so to me a picture isn't worth much. But
one well formed example is usually worth more than a thousand words of
explanation.
And that's why I like shell scripts more than gui solutions. If I can
remember where I've done something before, I can less my script and see how
I did it last time...
Reading the explanation many times is no guarantee I'll remember any of it.
But successfully following an easy to find example, enables me to learn by
doing and eventually I get to skip the look up the example step.
</rant>
I can however understand your explanation, coupled with the examples of it
I've found to realize that if I want to know what value to use for hd${num}
in grub, I should simply do an "cat /boot/grub/device.map"
Which since I won't remember the "/boot/grub/device.map" very well means $
mc cd /boot (scroll/browse filenames till I find it,{F3})
Only in reality, unless I start working with a multitude of computers I'll
just remember that on my pc hda=0 & hdc=1 And probably forget all about the
existence of that useful "/boot/grub/device.map" file <CRS just plain
stinks>
Thanks again for the kind words of encouragement Luciano.
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 11:22:07 -0300
From: "Bruno Tobias Stella" <brunostella@trt15.gov.br>
Subject: Re: Tripwire and Fedora
To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@redhat.com>
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On Wed, 26 May 2004 15:26:54 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote:
> On Wed, 26 May 2004 10:14:45 -0300, Bruno Tobias Stella wrote:
> 
> > I will use this "testing" tripwire in Fedora Core 1.
> > But, I don't know if somebody can help me, because the link
> >
"download.fedora.us/fedora/redhat/1/i386/SRPMS.testing/tripwire-2.3.1-18.fdr
.3.1.src.rpm"
> > is not found on that server. Are there somebody that knows another 
> > link or rebuilds this link ?
> 
> Where did you find that link? It's wrong because 'redhat/1' would mean 
> 'Red Hat Linux 1'.
> 
> Binary for FC1:
> 
http://download.fedora.us/fedora/fedora/1/i386/RPMS.testing/tripwire-2.3.1-1
8.fdr.3.1.i386.rpm
> 
> Source:
> 
http://download.fedora.us/fedora/fedora/1/i386/SRPMS.testing/tripwire-2.3.1-
18.fdr.3.1.src.rpm
> 
I found that link at the follow link:
http://www.fedora.us/pkglists/1/testing/tripwire-2.3.1-18.fdr.3.1.src.rpm.ht
ml
Thanks so much Michael !
Bruno Stella
brunostella@trt15.gov.br
Setor de Redes - (19) 3031-4165
Secretaria de Informatica
Tribunal Regional do Trabalho da 15a. Regiao
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 10:22:34 -0400
From: Sean Estabrooks <seanlkml@sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: Still the anoying installer problem.
To: fedora-list@redhat.com
Cc: akonstam@trinity.edu
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On Wed, 26 May 2004 08:52:16 -0500
akonstam@trinity.edu wrote:
> As I suspected the installer in FC2 still has the following anoying 
> problem. You create the root user before you decide that you don't 
> want to use md5 passwds. So root has a md5 passwd that screws up 
> passwd autherization ant least if you are using NIS.
> Why was this done? It would have been easy to make the default
> non-md5 passwds.
> -------------------------------------------
Aren't all problems annoying?  :o)   I'd hazard a guess that most people
aren't using NIS and that md5 password are a better default for the
majority.   You're right though, it would be nicer for the installer knew
about the md5 passwd choice before creating root.   Should probably
file a bugzilla report so that this is remembered for future changes to the
installer.
Cheers,
Sean
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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 16:19:09 +0200
From: Daniel Elessedil Kjeserud <kjes@ko.no>
Subject: Re: "Starting mdmpd:  failed"
To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@redhat.com>
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On Wed, 2004-05-26 at 16:03, Ted Gervais wrote:
> When I bring up FC2, I see "Starting mdmpd:  ....failed".
> What is that all about and how can I get that error out of there.
> 
> Everything else is so perfect, I just hate to see that 'failure'...
> 
> 
> --
> Ted Gervais
> Coldbrook, Nova Scotia
> Canada.
dmesg | grep mdmpd  or /var/log/messages maybe?
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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 15:30:19 +0100
From: Dave <fedora.lists@bedworth.mine.nu>
Subject: Re: FC2 Sound Card problem, using mp3, XMMS too loud,
	Rhythmbox	too quiet.
To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@redhat.com>
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On Wed, 2004-05-26 at 10:13, Dave wrote:
> With FC1 XMMS/Rhythmbox/Soundcard detection work okay but with FC2 
> when I *first* start XMMS the volume level is always 100% and the 
> sound blows even my weedy speakers into the next garden! So I have to 
> quickly reduce it to about 50% to listen in comfort. But after closing 
> and restaring XMMS the sound level is set to the previous input I used.
> 
Well I've been twiddling all day and after looking at a few pages I went to
this one:-
http://www.fedoraforum.org/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=247
and ran alsamixer as root and put everything to max including some sliders
way over on the right. After escaping out the desktop sounds started and the
Souncard Detection Utility worked correctly. XMMS and Rhythmbox are now
working okay although XMMS still starts up first time with 100% vol but I
can handle that now that the two sound outputs are equal.
Although whilst playing back through XMMS and opening the sound controls
produces some background interference so I'll stay away from that for a
while!!
I just wonder now whether I can live with 'Sound for events' or risk
something going wrong if I turn it off :(
--
Dave
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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 10:33:10 -0400
From: Sean Estabrooks <seanlkml@sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: FC2 Sound Card problem, using mp3, XMMS too loud,
	Rhythmbox too quiet.
To: fedora-list@redhat.com
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On Wed, 26 May 2004 15:30:19 +0100
Dave <fedora.lists@bedworth.mine.nu> wrote:
> I just wonder now whether I can live with 'Sound for events' or risk
> something going wrong if I turn it off :(
Heck live a little, just risk it.
Good Luck,
Sean
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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 09:34:33 -0500 (CDT)
From: Satish Balay <balay@fastmail.fm>
Subject: RE: terminal command line weirdness
To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@redhat.com>
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On Wed, 26 May 2004, Bill Gradwohl wrote:
>> What sort of terminal are you using? If it's a program, what is the
>> name of the program? This sounds like a traditional terminfo problem.
>
> I'm just opening a terminal window in Gnome, and keying in standard
console
> commands. Nothing fancy.
>
> The default windows size is 80x24. Key in a bunch of commands (ll will do)
> to fill up the empty screen. Then key in a long command that wraps back
> around to the start of the same line, BUT DON'T HIT ENTER. Now resize the
> window a bit smaller, then a bit larger using your mouse, and watch the
line
> crawl up the window. That's just one of the crazy symptoms.
>
> Long commands become a real headache when you retrieve them from history
as
> that crawling up the screen happens and you can't read the whole command
> line to attempt to modify it.
Can you try chaning your prompt and see if this happens?
  export PS1='${HOSTNAME}:${PWD}>'
<and now do the resize experiment>
Satish
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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 16:30:48 +0200
From: ?yvind Stegard <oyvinst@ifi.uio.no>
Subject: Re: Building a 2.6.6 kernel
To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@redhat.com>
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On Tue, May 25, 2004 at 01:23:49PM -0700, Geoffrey Leach wrote:
> 
> What follows is a short course on building your own kernel, using the
released
> sources from kernel.org.  Keep in mind, that with the freedom of DIY
builds
<snip>
>       and within that to "Firmware Drivers".  Make sure that "Use register
>       arguments (EXPERIMENTAL) REGPARM" is unchecked. 
<snip> 
I did not disable register arguments, and it's all working great
w/nVIDIA 5336 and a vanilla 2.6.6, 5 days up w/working, gaming, and all. 
I think that 4K stacks is the only show-stopper. (I'm guessing it's
working because the interfaces are in fact recompiled every time, when
installing the nvidia driver, and they will also be compiled with the
-mregparm=3 gcc flag)
..or maybe I'm just lucky.
Xyvind
-- 
< Xyvind Stegard <oyvinst@ifi.uio.no>
 < University of Oslo, Dept. of informatics
  < http://www.stegard.net/
   < "If at first you do succeed, try not to look astonished."
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Message: 12
Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 14:38:58 +0000
From: "Roy Brown" <brown_r@hotmail.com>
Subject: FC2 ate my system
To: fedora-list@redhat.com
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Well, it looks like I hit the dreaded dual-boot bug.  I hadn't realized it 
affected Win2K in addition to WinXP.  After failing to boot into my Windows 
partition, I decided to give up on FC2.  I tried reinstalling my previous 
Linux (Libranet 2.8) in the hope that it would fix the broken boot stuff.  
No luck.  Then I tried a "repair" with Windows...failure.  Then I tried to 
reinstall Windows from scratch (including deleting all 
partitions)...failure.  Any ideas what to try next?  I just want a working 
Windows system again.  I didn't see anything about LBA mode in my BIOS 
options (Albatron MB with i845PE chipset).
PS: this is an amazingly bad bug to let into a release.  Is there going to 
be a "fixed" version of FC2?  I would have thought that a bug this bad would
have warranted pulling the release until it was fixed.  It doesn't just not 
install, it screws up your system.  Was this problem in FC2T3 or was it 
introduced in the final release?
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Message: 13
Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 09:39:10 -0500
From: dalen <dalen@czexan.net>
Subject: Re: feedback to NVidia [was: Nvidia Drivers]
To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@redhat.com>
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Rui Miguel Seabra wrote:
> On Wed, 2004-05-26 at 07:05 -0500, dalen wrote:
> 
>>Rui Miguel Seabra wrote:
>>
>>>I did suggest something constructive:
>>>
>>>  a) To use your power as a costumer to create demand for Free Software
>>>     drivers.
>>>  b) change your graphics card
>>>
>>>
>>
>>What would be your choice for suggestion b?
> 
> 
> I put a GeForce 2MX in the drawer for an ATI 7500 -> it works.
> I've read that some of earlier ATI's also work, but not the latest.
> 
> Intel i845 works too, IIRC.
> 
> I've not done a market research since I'm not expecting to buy a
> computer soon, so there are likely more cards.
> 
> You could check with xorg-x11...
> 
> Rui
> 
Thanks for the suggestion.  It appears there are 3d drivers for radeon 
up to 9200 (see url below).  I'll consider this the next time I'm 
shoping for a video card.
http://dri.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/ATIRadeon
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Message: 14
Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 10:46:43 -0400
From: Jeremy Brown <jeremy@cadre5.com>
Subject: Re: FC2 ate my system
To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@redhat.com>
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Roy Brown wrote:
> PS: this is an amazingly bad bug to let into a release.  Is there 
> going to be a "fixed" version of FC2?
Doubtful.
> I would have thought that a bug this bad would have warranted pulling 
> the release until it was fixed.  It doesn't just not install, it 
> screws up your system.  Was this problem in FC2T3 or was it introduced 
> in the final release?
 From what I've heard, it's been around for a while.  I echo your 
sentiment; Fedora is quickly losing credibility with bugs like this one 
and the Asus motherboard issue.
Jeremy
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Message: 15
Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 14:00:52 +0100 (BST)
From: KEVIN CROOKES <kevin.crookes@btinternet.com>
Subject: Yum Proxy Settings
To: fedora-list@redhat.com
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Hi all,

Right I have a quick question for you all now. I currently have a FC1 box
which sits behide a corporate firewall running ISA with Active Directory.
Now I can access the internet without a problem using Mozilla, just a case
of putting the Proxy settings into Mozilla along with the username and
password.
The problem I have at the moment is, I am wanting to keep up-to-date with
the latest updates, now for this I am using Yum (wonderful little program)
but I keep getting errors along the lines of [Errno 7] HTTP Error
(CannotSendRequest). First I thought with it using the default repository
there could be some lag issues so I changed the repository, but I still get
the same problem.
I have configured the Network Proxy settings by going through Preferences
and double checked that these are all correct and they are.
The main two questions are:-

What port does Yum use to send and receive the updates through?
Do I have to edit the conf file for Yum so that it uses a Proxy?

Any information on this would be very helpful.

Thanks

Kevin
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Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 10:48:08 -0400
From: "Jason Parks" <jason@innersanctum.org>
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