Deploring *nix Philosophy ( Was Re : Splitting archives across floppies )

From: Parameshwara Bhat (pbhat_at_ongc.net)
Date: 06/03/04

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    On Wed, 2 Jun 2004 17:40:22 +0100, James Wilkinson
    <james@westexe.demon.co.uk> wrote:

    > (Netiquette note: when you're responding to a digest, it's a good idea
    > to change the subject back to something useful).

    (My original thread had it!It was perhaps overlooked in the second)
    >
    > Parameshwara Bhat wrote:
    >> Yes,that does work.But what I was looking for was not just meeting an
    >> actual need.But a technological question as to why Linux can't do it or
    >> doesn't do it or hasn't thought fo doing it ? What you suggest is a two
    >> way work .But Winzip has been spanning floppies for many years and it
    >> appears so simple a task in Windows.Why this feature not in Linux ? I
    >> guess because of it's clumsy mount and unmount ?
    >
    > It's more a philosophical point.
    > ( Rest read and snipped ! )

    It indeed is ! Well I can't see the situation in your place, in my place I
    am one attracted to FS /OSS for it's idealism and trying to keep myself
    afloat on Linux in the sea of Windows and all personal computers . Now I
    see that CDs cost a bit less than or at most equal to floppies and my
    point perhaps makes no sense.

    But in this lonely attempt,many times I felt frustrated at the complicated
    ways even KDE and GNOME and Fedora think!Look at the stupidity of denying
    access to floppies and CD-roms to user accounts(You can't unmount a CD and
    not hope to eject)in a desktop installation of Fedora ( choice offered in
    Anaconda ) I am both root and user.I am advised not to work as root.But I
    can't take out a CD and put another one in ! I must be root to do that.I
    can't dial up to internet connection as a user.I must be root to do that
    and you are not supposed to be that connecting to internet.It is not all
    that complicated to surmount this,but as a new user from the world of
    Windows,each required great deal of wondering and digging.It is as much an
    effort getting sound !

    This is a common trait of all *nixes as I am learning.Whatever are the
    inner strenghts and ideals,the above examples are born out of a lack of
    respect for the common computer user.Clear message - computer not for
    non-programmers and non-geeks!And as much out of a lack of
    imagination.What else for it should offer you a desktop installation and
    not bother to do the simple settings for you ?

    I am an educated,thinking individual,but not in computers! but the world
    of Linux and Unixes have no respect for people like me.They do not seem to
    want us ( I do not mean to offend all those of you who have so voluntarily
    shared my troulbes taking them upon you ! )

    Rgds,

    Parameshwara Bhat 

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