RE: FC2 Frist boot after clean Install

From: Lonnie Santella (lonniesantella_at_hotmail.com)
Date: 06/23/04

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Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 20:06:40 +0000

    Well, I finally made a breakthrough on this issue. If anyone else out there
    has this kind of issue, you should take a moment and read this.

    <snip>

    Here’s a quick review of my environment:

    (1) Always a COMPLETELY clean install – using Drive Image utility to erase
    all partitions and restore MBR.

    (2) Two machines, both Asus P4 clones with 1 GB RAM, and 1 Western Digital
    20 GB hard drive each.

    (3) Both machines have subsequently loaded Redhat 9.0 and ran flawlessly –
    no problems at all.

    (4) I have two different ISO image CD’s from two different mirrors – both
    with verified MD5Sum’s and both producing the exact same problem each time.

    So I’ve been trying to install FC2 – I’ve just finished my 11th attempt.
    Following the advice of different threads and release notes, I always go
    back to a fresh install before trying anything new.

    To minimize variables, I keep the install as simple as possible. I choose
    “Automatic Partition”, which creates a 100MB /boot on hda1, a 17GB “/”
    (root) on hda2, and a 2GB swap on hda3. I also choose a “minimal” install to
    eliminate possible variables from the other CD’s – this way I only have to
    use CD1.

    Each time, the install itself is flawless. But after the first reboot – and
    naturally each time thereafter, immediately following the POST, I get a
    black screen with the word “GRUB” in the upper left corner. No response to
    keyboard strokes or mouse movement at that point.

    I have to rule out hardware – since this problem with FC2, I have
    successfully installed and ran RedHat 9.0 and FreeBSD 4.10. I always use a
    tried and true utility to erase the hard drives of all partitions and
    restore MBR before installing anything new. This guarantees a pristine
    physical drive during the install.

    I compared the grub.conf files on each machine after the FC2 install. They
    are identical. No big surprise there I guess. Then, just for further
    comparison, I isolated one machine and wiped it clean, and loaded RedHat
    9.0. Then I compared it’s grub.conf to that of the FC2 install. Almost
    identical except for the “/” (root) and swap partitions. In each case the
    /boot partition is always the first (hda1). In FC2, the “/” root partition
    is the second one (hda2) followed but the swap on hda3. But in RedHat 9.0,
    the swap is on hda2, followed by the / root on hda3. No big deal there, the
    grub.conf files compensate for this but looking to hda2 on FC2 and hda3 on
    RedHat 9.0 as one would expect.

    One other thing I thought was odd is that on both machines, the standard FC2
    install puts a strange format or partition table on the physical drive; so
    much so that it takes a few extreme steps to wipe the partition info off the
    drive. Normally I would just use the “delete” function of the utility, which
    works for all the RedHat dirstros and FreeBSD – but in FC2 it generates and
    error stating that it can’t delete the partition. I have to use a utility
    called “bigfdisk” then put a dos partition on it, then delete the dos
    partition – to get everything set back to a completely empty hard drive.

    </snip>

    Well, the reason for the strange partition table in FC2 is because FC2
    refuses to recognize the cyl/head/sector params of my hard drive(s)
    correctly. If this were an isolated case, I’d give FC2 the benefit of the
    doubt, but since I’ve repeated this on now 4 different machines with
    different Asus model motherboards and different hard drives (Seagates &
    Western Digitals) – I’m gonna have to fault FC2 on this matter. These four
    machines are about 6 months old in hardware, and I’ve flawlessly loaded
    RedHat 9.0, RedHat 7.3, and FreeBSD 4.10 & 5.2.1 on each of them multiple
    times. Every other distro I load will correctly see the cyl/head/sector
    params of the hard drives <EXCEPT> FC2. FC2 sees 38792 cylinders and 16
    heads. All the other distros see 2434 cylinders and 255 heads. The
    manufacturer indicates on the spec *** 16,383 cylinders and 16 heads. In
    all cases, it’s 63 sectors per track also. The BIOS sees 1024 cylinders, 255
    heads – so not sure what to say about that. I’m far from an expert on hard
    drive technology, but this vast inconsistency is rather frustrating.

    So, I decided to stick with the params that work in the other distros. I
    started with a completely wiped hard drive (no partitions, and a restored
    MBR using “fdisk /mbr” from a DOS floppy). I then booted from FC2 CD and
    chose “rescue”. I then used the “fdisk /dev/hda” and used the e”x”pert menu
    to change the cylinders to 2434 and the heads to 255. I created a /boot,
    “/”, and “swap” partition and wrote the changes and exited. This is more an
    exercise to set the hard drive params than to actually create partitions –
    but creating and writing the partitions ensures that the params will persist
    during the regular install.

    Rebooted – again on the FC2 Disc1 CD, and chose a regular graphical install.
    I let the partitions be created automatically – after deleting the
    partitions I had just created in the steps above. I chose a custom install –
    grabbing ‘more’ than I really needed – but hey, this is an FC2 test drive
    after all ;)

    Install was flawless, and the boot up afterwards was flawless. The hard
    drive parameters made the difference in this case – as was suggested earlier
    to me – thanks for the tip!

    I guess what bothers me the most about all this is the fact that I
    consistently had this problem on multiple hardware platforms using very
    standard, 6 month old hardware with varying motherboard and hard drive
    models. Yet I couldn’t find ANY documentation on a problem like this, which
    would suggest that I have a very unusual environment – which I can’t begin
    to imagine.

    Another let down was finding out after I finally (after three solid days of
    fighting) got FC2 installed, that MYSQL, and Apache packages are horribly
    out dated. * sigh * I’m just glad I got passed this problem. Hope this
    helps someone else… 

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