Re: fedora-list Digest, Vol 5, Issue 411

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Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 18:39:11 +0000 GMT


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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 13:00:15 -0400
From: "RDD IT" <rdd37it@hotmail.com>
Subject: FC2 media check fails on one system
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Hello --
My first attempt to install FC2 failed during the installation of packages, 
with an error message that a particular package could not be found.  I 
rebooted, and tested the installation media -- it failed.  Stupid me, I 
should have done that before.  Burned a new CD, tested it -- failed.  
Downloaded the ISO again, checked the MD5, burned a new CD, tested it -- 
failed.  Hmmm...  Pop the CD in another machine, reboot, test the media -- 
PASS!  Switched out the CD-ROM drives between the two machines, so that the 
one that had passed the CD was now in my FC2-ToBe machine.  Boot up, test 
media -- fail.
So.....apparently FC2 does not like something about my machine's hardware..? 
  Have other people experienced similar issues?  Are there known issues with 
certain types of hardware -- particular hard drives, motherboards, CPUs, 
etc. that FC2 is not compatible with?  I can post more detailed specs on the 
system later if needed (at work now)...  There is nothing terribly outdated 
about it, and it all worked fine on RH9.0.
Thanks a lot for any help!
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 18:02:07 +0100
From: <Rafiq_Maniar@Dell.com>
Subject: RE: text login
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In /etc/inittab you should have the following line(s):
1:2345:respawn:/sbin/mingetty tty1
2:2345:respawn:/sbin/mingetty tty1
....
The 2nd field there lists the runlevels that mingetty (the login program) should run in. I'm guessing you're missing '5' there.
Rafiq
-----Original Message-----
From: Sameer Kamat [mailto:sameer@unitrends.com]
Sent: 29 July 2004 17:57
To: fedora-list@redhat.com
Subject: text login
Hi
    I have the default in inittab to run at  5(GUI mode). It works fine, but
if I hit CTRL+ALT+F1 I do
not see anything but a black screen. If I set the inittab default to
runlevel 3,
then I do get to a text login screen, however when I run startx to get to
the GUI I lose the text console.
Does anyone have any thoughts on what I should be doing to fix this ?
Thanks,
Sameer Kamat
Unitrends Software Corporation
sameer@unitrends.com
803-454-0300 ext 211
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 19:03:58 +0200
From: Alexander Dalloz <alexander.dalloz@uni-bielefeld.de>
Subject: Re: text login
To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@redhat.com>
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Am Do, den 29.07.2004 schrieb Sameer Kamat um 18:56:
>     I have the default in inittab to run at  5(GUI mode). It works fine, but
> if I hit CTRL+ALT+F1 I do
> not see anything but a black screen. If I set the inittab default to
> runlevel 3,
> then I do get to a text login screen, however when I run startx to get to
> the GUI I lose the text console.
> 
> Does anyone have any thoughts on what I should be doing to fix this ?
> Sameer Kamat
You have by default 6 consoles which you can reach from X running by
pressing Strg+Alt+F[1-6] (means function keys 1 to 6). You switch
between the consoles by just Alt+F[1-6] once you left X, still running
on Alt+F7.
If you use startx then append a & to the end, reads "startx &". This
will keep your console usable though you switch to X mode. Go back to
the startx console, say it is tty1, by using Strg+Alt+F1.
But I would suggest you try to find out whats causing the black screen
when switching from X to console. Do you use a framebuffer console?
Alexander
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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 12:09:02 -0500
From: Dennis Gilmore <dennis@ausil.us>
Subject: Re: freeware x-server
To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@redhat.com>
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Once upon a time Thursday 29 July 2004 11:59 am, Paul wrote:
> From long distant memory, there was a product called X-Windows (X for
> Windows). No idea if it's still around - google will though.
>
> As for SSH and running the app remotely, you should be able to under
> FC1. You won't under FC2.
Who says you cant in FC2?  i do it all the time  in FC3  you wont be able to 
unless you run ssh -X  <host>  but you still can do it,  the default wont 
have X forwarding enabled   but you can do it on a case by case basis
Dennis
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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 19:10:15 +0200
From: Alexander Dalloz <alexander.dalloz@uni-bielefeld.de>
Subject: Re: Questions
To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@redhat.com>
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Am Do, den 29.07.2004 schrieb Jonathan Hooker um 18:58:
> I'm new here and I have a few questions.
Welcome to the community.
>  First of all what files are required to install Fedora?
Get the 4 ISO image files from any mirror server near you (at least
first 3 CDs) and burn them to CDs. Boot with CD1 and run through
installation steps.
>  Is there a kernel that would allow me to run
> Windows XP on top of fedora?
O, may god prevent that. No is the straight answer. You could run Fedora
and Windows[tm] in dual-boot - for which you will find a lot of
information in the list archive and detailed instructions by a google
search - or you could use a software like VMware to install Windows[tm]
on a virtual PC inside Fedora as a host system.
>  And, is there documentation for the
> installation of Fedora yet?
You can use the installation documentation for Redhat (9 or RHEL3):
http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/
> Jonathan
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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 13:11:39 -0400
From: Terry Polzin <fox3ec208@wideopenwest.com>
Subject: Re: text login
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Yeah, sounds like the gettys aren't running to me either.
ps -ef | grep getty to see if they are running
On Thursday July 29 2004 13:02, Rafiq_Maniar@Dell.com wrote:
> In /etc/inittab you should have the following line(s):
>
> 1:2345:respawn:/sbin/mingetty tty1
> 2:2345:respawn:/sbin/mingetty tty1
> ....
>
> The 2nd field there lists the runlevels that mingetty (the login program)
> should run in. I'm guessing you're missing '5' there.
>
> Rafiq
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sameer Kamat [mailto:sameer@unitrends.com]
> Sent: 29 July 2004 17:57
> To: fedora-list@redhat.com
> Subject: text login
>
>
> Hi
>     I have the default in inittab to run at  5(GUI mode). It works fine,
> but if I hit CTRL+ALT+F1 I do
> not see anything but a black screen. If I set the inittab default to
> runlevel 3,
> then I do get to a text login screen, however when I run startx to get to
> the GUI I lose the text console.
>
> Does anyone have any thoughts on what I should be doing to fix this ?
>
> Thanks,
> Sameer Kamat
> Unitrends Software Corporation
> sameer@unitrends.com
> 803-454-0300 ext 211
>
>
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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 13:13:00 -0400
From: Michael Griffin <mkgriffin@adelphia.net>
Subject: Re: freeware x-server
To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@redhat.com>
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On Thu, 2004-07-29 at 12:53, mmarkiw@speakeasy.net wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I have to use a Windows XP machine at my office, but I have a FC1 box sitting at home that I routinely access via SSH sessions during lunch.  I would like to be able to test some GUI-based applications I'm writing on there, but I don't have any x-server software for the windows PC.  My question is, is there any good, free or cheap windows based x-server software available?  And also, can I use it over an SSH session?
> 
> I appreciate any help you might be able to give.
> Thanks!
> -Mike
> 
> 
Try
http://x.cygwin.com/
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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 10:16:33 -0700
From: John Wendel <john.wendel@metnet.navy.mil>
Subject: Re: Driver/display problems with ATI FireGL Z1-128 and
	Viewsonic	LCDs
To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@redhat.com>
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On Thursday 29 July 2004 08:06 am, Sean E. Millichamp wrote:
> I recently convinced my boss to let me upgrade my displays to the
> following:
> ATI FireGL Z1-128
> 2 x Viewsonic VP201s
> Running Fedora Core 2 + updates and the included radeon driver.
...
> I didn't try the ATI binary only drivers for this card because they only
> say they support XFree86 4.3.
>
I don't have the nice setup that you have, but I can verify that the ATI 
binary drivers work with FC2 and X.org. I'd give them a try.
You'll need to install a small patch. Google will quickly reveal the voodoo 
needed, or you can contact me directly and I'll email the patch and 
instructions.
Regards,
John Wendel
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Message: 11
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 19:18:01 +0200
From: Alexander Dalloz <alexander.dalloz@uni-bielefeld.de>
Subject: Re: text login
To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@redhat.com>
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Am Do, den 29.07.2004 schrieb Rafiq_Maniar@Dell.com um 19:02:
> In /etc/inittab you should have the following line(s):
> 
> 1:2345:respawn:/sbin/mingetty tty1
> 2:2345:respawn:/sbin/mingetty tty1
> ....
> 
> The 2nd field there lists the runlevels that mingetty (the login program) should run in. I'm guessing you're missing '5' there.
> 
> Rafiq
Running manually "startx" to get X server running does not change the
runlevel at all from 3 to 5. So that is hardly the cause.
Alexander
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Message: 12
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 13:15:50 -0400
From: "Scot L. Harris" <webid@cfl.rr.com>
Subject: Re: point2play-1.3-2+cedega-4.0-1+FC2(2.6.6-1.435.2.3) help??
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On Thu, 2004-07-29 at 12:39, Darren Grant wrote:
> 
> So in short, I can't get any games to run using point2play and cedega.  
> Has anyone successfully gotten games to run via p2p+cedega on the 2.6 
> kernel of FC2?
> 
> I'm also using an ati radeon mobility m9 graphics card (which I have 
> setup correctly using ATI's latest proprietary driver glfx-4.3.0-3.9.0).
> 
> I'm using the 2.6.6-1.435.2.3 kernel.
> 
> I also have no problem running native-linux games such as UT2004 and UFO.
> 
> Any help would be appreciated...
> 
> -Darren
Do you have iptables running or have a firewall in front of your
broadband connection?  From the description it sounds like it attempts
to make a connection but then fails.  Most likely a firewall issue.
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	The person in your office who was unable to form a task force
	before the music stopped. 
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Message: 13
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 13:24:42 -0400
From: "Scot L. Harris" <webid@cfl.rr.com>
Subject: Re: freeware x-server
To: Fedora List <fedora-list@redhat.com>
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On Thu, 2004-07-29 at 12:53, mmarkiw@speakeasy.net wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I have to use a Windows XP machine at my office, but I have a FC1 box sitting at home that I routinely access via SSH sessions during lunch.  I would like to be able to test some GUI-based applications I'm writing on there, but I don't have any x-server software for the windows PC.  My question is, is there any good, free or cheap windows based x-server software available?  And also, can I use it over an SSH session?
> 
> I appreciate any help you might be able to give.
> Thanks!
> -Mike
Check out the cygwin project.  You can setup a fairly extensive unix
like environment on windows, including an x server that will handle x11
forwarding for your applications.  You can also use their ssh or putty
with the x11 server cygwin provides.
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		   Catiline", by Sallust 
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Message: 14
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 12:26:27 -0500
From: "Ian T." <itschaotic@yahoo.ca>
Subject: re: Summer Reading
To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@redhat.com>
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Nate wrote:
Hello All, I contacted the list yesterday regarding a problem getting my 
DSL connection working. I am pleased to report that it is now working 
with all the help. I was wondering if anyone had suggestions on a good 
linux book. I have linux for non-geeks, but it is lacking in detail. I 
guess I should face the fact that I am a geek and find something a 
little bit more meaty. Has Oprah suggested anything? Thanks Again, Nate --
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Hi Nate and all.
The O'Reilly publications should keep you tied up for a while if it's 
geek-speak you are after.  Not always the most entertaining but I have a 
few.. heh
Rebel Code by Glyn Moody was a great read for me.  Well researched, 
entertaining and he had access to many of the major players.  He's a 
good writer and treated the subject with respect.  I suppose to me that 
means that he retained some objectivity while celebrating an exciting 
period in our history.  A good summer read.
ian
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Message: 15
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 10:28:07 -0700
From: Darren Grant <darren.grant@monstertech.ca>
Subject: Re: point2play-1.3-2+cedega-4.0-1+FC2(2.6.6-1.435.2.3) help??
To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@redhat.com>
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Scot L. Harris wrote:
>On Thu, 2004-07-29 at 12:39, Darren Grant wrote:
>
>  
>
>>So in short, I can't get any games to run using point2play and cedega.  
>>Has anyone successfully gotten games to run via p2p+cedega on the 2.6 
>>kernel of FC2?
>>
>>I'm also using an ati radeon mobility m9 graphics card (which I have 
>>setup correctly using ATI's latest proprietary driver glfx-4.3.0-3.9.0).
>>
>>I'm using the 2.6.6-1.435.2.3 kernel.
>>
>>I also have no problem running native-linux games such as UT2004 and UFO.
>>
>>Any help would be appreciated...
>>
>>-Darren
>>    
>>
>
>Do you have iptables running or have a firewall in front of your
>broadband connection?  From the description it sounds like it attempts
>to make a connection but then fails.  Most likely a firewall issue.
>  
>
I have a broadband connection behind a firewall... however all outgoing 
ports are open... and I have no trouble connecting to steam with my 
credentials... getting updates/downloads for steam and mods... as well 
as querying servers, etc...
As well it's not just online games I'm having trouble with...
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Message: 16
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 10:27:42 -0700 (PDT)
From: Mike Zingale <zingale@ucolick.org>
Subject: Re: Fedora Core 2 and Lucent WinModem 
To: fedora-list@redhat.com
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Marcello, I was able to get this to work with FC2 using the supplied
build_rpm script.  You must upgrade to a 2.6.6 kernel first -- just use
up2date to get the latest FC2 kernel -- the 2.6.5 kernel does not work
with the Lucent Winmodem driver.  build_rpm will create an rpm that you
can then install and it will automatically setup all the proper links and
module loadings for you.
Mike
> Can somebody help me? I installed Fedora Core 2 on a Compaq Armada V300
> Notebook, and this notebook has a built-in Lucent Windomes DSP. I
> downloaded th ltmodem rpm package, but I dont have the skills to compile
> the kernel with this modems.
> Marcelo Ferreira da Costa
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Message: 17
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 12:34:02 -0500
From: Jeff Vian <jvian10@charter.net>
Subject: Re: freeware x-server
To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@redhat.com>
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On Thu, 2004-07-29 at 11:55, Joel Jaeggli wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 mmarkiw@speakeasy.net wrote:
> 
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I have to use a Windows XP machine at my office, but I have a FC1 box 
> > sitting at home that I routinely access via SSH sessions during lunch. 
> > I would like to be able to test some GUI-based applications I'm writing 
> > on there, but I don't have any x-server software for the windows PC. 
> > My question is, is there any good, free or cheap windows based x-server
> 
> http://www.cygwin.com/
> 
> includes xf86 builkt for win32...
> 
And use X forwarding with ssh to do that.
Works like a charm for me.
> > software available?  And also, can I use it over an SSH session?
> >
> > I appreciate any help you might be able to give.
> > Thanks!
> > -Mike
> >
> >
> >
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