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Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 13:12:19 +0200


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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2004 23:48:56 -0400
From: Gene Heskett <gene.heskett@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: Help me find 5 mistakes and than solution to thoes
	mistakes!
To: fedora-list@redhat.com
Cc: "Rodolfo J. Paiz" <rpaiz@simpaticus.com>
Message-ID: <200408182348.56327.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
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On Wednesday 18 August 2004 14:07, Rodolfo J. Paiz wrote:
>On Tue, 2004-08-17 at 17:09, James Wilkinson wrote:
>> Craig White wrote:
>> > I would have sworn this message base was about Fedora.
>>
>> It is a truth universally acknowledged among those who have been
>> on the Internet for long enough [...]
>
>Dammit, James, do *NOT* do that while I'm drinking coffee! At least
> put a smiley on the thing so I don't snort bubbles out my nose.
> It's unprofessional of me to leave home with a white shirt and come
> home with a spotted one.
>
>I have been using Usenet and Internet email since 1989, and I can
>bemusedly attest that everything you've said is true. I do have
> trouble convincing "newbies" who've only been online for five or
> six years that it really is a law of Netnature, though.
>
>Cheers,
>
Young whippersnapper!  I started out with delphi in 83 or 84 IIRC.
300 baud modem in a TRS-80 Color Computer's multipack interface.
1200 baud modems weren't even dreamed of then.
>--
>Rodolfo J. Paiz <rpaiz@simpaticus.com>
>Simpaticus.com
--
Cheers, Gene
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
99.24% setiathome rank, not too shabby for a WV hillbilly
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2004 20:58:17 -0700 (PDT)
From: ZHANG YD <yuandanzhang@yahoo.com>
Subject: modem driver for HCF modem on FC2
To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@redhat.com>
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Hi,
any one knows where to get a modem driver for HCF
modem on Fedora Core2. Got one from
http://www.linuxant.com/drivers/hcf/full/downloads-fc2-i586.php
but does not work?
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 00:04:27 -0400
From: Gene Heskett <gene.heskett@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: Help me find 5 mistakes and than solution to thoes
	mistakes!
To: fedora-list@redhat.com
Cc: Nifty Hat Mitch <mitch48@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <200408190004.28265.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
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On Wednesday 18 August 2004 18:28, Nifty Hat Mitch wrote:
>On Wed, Aug 18, 2004 at 04:48:27PM -0400, Carroll Grigsby wrote:
>> On Wednesday 18 August 2004 02:11 pm, Nifty Hat Mitch wrote:
>> > On Sun, Aug 15, 2004 at 06:43:35PM -0700, Mr. Oberoi wrote:
>> > >    to be honest... yes!
>> >
>> > As in...
>> >   Damien Clark
>> >
>> > http://infocom.cqu.edu.au/Courses/2004/T3/COIT13146/Assessment/A
>> >ssignment_1 _-_Shell_Programming/
>>
>> In light of the fact that Mr. Oberoi has admitted the error of his
>> ways, did you give him a passing grade?
>
>Well there are multiple parts to the class and I have
>yet to do the exercise myself.
>
>I once worked at a major workstation company and saw the same thing
>where students would call in for assistance on an interesting and
> 'non trivial' problem.  Interesting enough to discuss over lunch...
> and almost all of us at the table went --" me too, I just got the
> same question"--.
>
>Since none of us "just replied" it will be curious to see how well
>he did.   Goodness, help him if his grammar needs work.
No *if* about it Tom, his grammer needs all the help it can get.
Which leads me to an observation based on 69 years of living, and now
about 20 years of interneting.
That observation is that for the most part, unless there is a real
'language problem' on the part of the poster, the level of written
english here far exceeds that presently being published by our
leading nationwide daily newspapers.  Many of the posters here had to
learn english in order to carry on a meaningfull conversation
covering the technical issues of today.
And guess what?  Most of those whose native tongue might be german or
some other slavic language, and have learned english in professional
self defense, have apparently studied it much more thoroughly than
many of us who speak in natively.  At my age, I am still getting an
english lesson on the internet from time to time.  Probably from
someone with a .de, .ru or .cx address.
We Americans are getting incredibly sloppy with our usage, some would
even go so far as to say bastardization, of the language.  IMO we are
NOT improving the language by doing so.
--
Cheers, Gene
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
99.24% setiathome rank, not too shabby for a WV hillbilly
Yahoo.com attorneys please note, additions to this message
by Gene Heskett are:
Copyright 2004 by Maurice Eugene Heskett, all rights reserved.
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 00:08:55 -0400
From: "Scot L. Harris" <webid@cfl.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Restoring passwd and shadow files
To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <1092888535.28675.11.camel@lathe>
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On Wed, 2004-08-18 at 20:37, Kevin Old wrote:
> Hello everyone,
>
> I'm currently moving data from one machine to another and would like
> to move over all my users logins with ease.  I've never done it
> before, but I assume if I copy all of these files from my old server
> to my new one, all should work well.
>
> Here's what I *think* I should move:
>
> /etc/passwd
> /etc/passwd-
> /etc/gshadow
> /etc/gshadow-
> /etc/gshadow.lock
> /etc/shadow
> /etc/shadow-
>
> Is this correct?  I'm moving a RH9 box to another RH9 box and a FC1 to
> and FC2 box.  I figured it should be the same for each of the three
> versions.
>
> Anyone actually done this and can offer help?
You really only want to copy the user account information in the
passwd/shadow/group files.  If you copy the files whole you will most
likely have standard accounts on one system that either don't exist on
the other or the UIDs/GIDs may have changed.  This could cause problems
with permissions on any number of critical system files.
Also you should verify that the UID/GID information on the user account
information matches when you move the users data to the new system.
This will prevent a lot of permission type problems that you could run
into.
--
Scot L. Harris
webid@cfl.rr.com
Hurricane Charley survivor
Confirmed 105 MPH winds
3 Days 9.5 hours without power
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2004 23:19:09 -0500 (CDT)
From: Don Dupy <fedora@maxxrad.net>
Subject: Re: I also wonder...
To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0408182317250.3166@rokit.maxxrad.net>
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yup.........
I wonder if this is how people learned how to use windoz??
like I care about that.
Don Dupy
FC1 - Kernel 2.4.22 - Dell Poweredge 600SC
http://www.maxxrad.net
email: fedora@maxxrad.net
On Mon, 16 Aug 2004, Michael E. Webster wrote:
> While we're wondering...  I wonder why people are quick to post
> straight forward questions without taking time to research
> their "problem".  Google is a great resource for finding answers.
>
> I'm certainly not trying to be pretentious, but come on now...   I'd
> like to think that linux users are smarter than the average end-user.
> How do I print?  How do I exit vim?  How do I play my mp3 files?
> Most likely many of these questions have been answered before.
> Search the web, search the newsgroups, search the fedora-list archives.
> For many of these simple questions, the answer is just a search away.
>
> Seriously, I'd like to know.  Is it easier to send an email asking for
> an answer than it is to find the answer yourself?  Sure it is.  Will you
> remember what you did to fix the problem two months from now?  Probably
> not.  Is it laziness?  Most likely.
>
>
> Mike.
>
>
>
> > I wonder why you didn't read the release notes?
> >
> > http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/release-notes/
> >
> > --
> > William Hooper
> >
>
>
> --
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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 14:14:00 +1000
From: Geoff Hacker <geoff.hacker@gmail.com>
Subject: AddScreen/ScreenInit failed for driver 0
To: fedora-list@redhat.com
Message-ID: <12ee707c04081821147e0af209@mail.gmail.com>
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Hi all,
I switched from using XFree86 to Xorg when I switched from FC1 to FC2.
Now I cannot start X. The screen simply goes black and stays that way
until I Ctrl+F4 out of it back to the shell. Below is the redirected
output from the startx command:
hostname: Host name lookup failure
Release Date: 18 December 2003
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 6.7 Build Operating System:
Linux 2.4.21-14.ELsmp i686 [ELF] Current Operating System: Linux
localhost.localdomain 2.6.5-1.358 #1 Sat May 8 09:04:50 EDT 2004 i686
Build Date: 07 May 2004 Build Host: tweety.build.redhat.com
	Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.X.Org
	to make sure that you have the latest version.
Module Loader present
OS Kernel: Linux version 2.6.5-1.358 (bhcompile@bugs.build.redhat.com)
(gcc version 3.3.3 20040412 (Red Hat Linux 3.3.3-7)) #1 Sat May 8
09:04:50 EDT 2004
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
	(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
	(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Wed Aug 18 22:43:24 2004
(==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf"
VIASetModeUseBIOSTable: Cannot find suitable mode!!
Mode setting in XF86Config(-4) is not supported!!
Fatal server error:
AddScreen/ScreenInit failed for driver 0
Please consult the The X.Org Foundation support
	 at http://wiki.X.Org
 for help.
Please also check the log file at "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" for additional
information.
   *** If unresolved symbols were reported above, they might not
   *** be the reason for the server aborting.
FatalError re-entered, aborting
Caught signal 11.  Server aborting
XIO:  fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server ":0.0"
      after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining.
What other investigations can I perform?
Thanks,
Geoff
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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 06:25:54 +0200
From: Alexander Dalloz <alexander.dalloz@uni-bielefeld.de>
Subject: Re: RH8 Question
To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <1092889554.4207.903.camel@serendipity.dogma.lan>
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Am Do, den 19.08.2004 schrieb Didier Casse um 5:46:
> > Alexander Dalloz | Enger, Germany | GPG key 1024D/ED695653 1999-07-13
> > Fedora GNU/Linux Core 2 (Tettnang) kernel 2.6.7-1.494.2.2smp
>
> I remembered you told me not to put ther kernel version in the mailing
> list, yet you have yours in every email you sent! :-)
> Didier.
I feel we have a classical misunderstanding. I guess you mean following
conversion:
You:
> > (didier@microtronyx:didier)$ uname -r
> >
> > 2.4.22-1.2115.nptl
Me:
> Please don't make life not so easy for hackers! Update your kernel (as
> well as the other packages) to the current bugfixing secuirty update
> kernel .2199.
I really don't remember ever told anyone to cover the version of you
running kernel. Such a recommendation would make no sense. If you did
understand my hint from my annotation about your posting of the result
of "uname -r" as to hide any version information then you got it totally
wrong. And I really hope you meanwhile upgraded your kernel ;) Because
that was my point, to not run kernels with know security bugs which may
used by attackers to get control over your host. Hiding kernel version
information does not help.
Alexander
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Alexander Dalloz | Enger, Germany | GPG key 1024D/ED695653 1999-07-13
Fedora GNU/Linux Core 2 (Tettnang) kernel 2.6.7-1.494.2.2smp
Serendipity 06:19:43 up 14 days, 23:47, load average: 0.23, 0.49, 0.42
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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2004 23:25:39 -0500
From: Olwe Melwasul <olwe@cpinternet.com>
Subject: Laptop ethernet won't work
To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@redhat.com>
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Got F2 (kernel 2.6.5-1.358) installed on my Presario 2100 and
dual-booting well with the original XP (BootItNG did the trick for
repartitioning the NTFS). But the modem doesn't work (Linuxant says they
have a driver) and the ethernet card won't do anything. It's the
built-in NatSemiconductor DP83815/816 10/100 MacPhyter PCI. It's eth0
and I've given it static IP of 192.168.0.11 and everything seems to be
fine. During boot it comes up and the Network GUI reports it "ok" and
"active". But the hub light is dead and no pinging gets through. Same
ethernet works perfect when I boot to XP. One tell-tale thing is on shut
down it reports "remaining active for wake-on-lan". Another odd thing is
according to the GUI, it gives "unknown" as the IRQ address. XP says
it's 11. Any ideas?
Olwers
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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2004 23:47:02 -0500 (CDT)
From: Don Dupy <fedora@maxxrad.net>
Subject: Re: I also wonder...
To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0408182344420.5290@rokit.maxxrad.net>
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All this may make one fear the penguin and his flippers................
some may turn away in fear of leaving their comfort from behind the
window...........
Don Dupy
FC1 - Kernel 2.4.22 - Dell Poweredge 600SC
http://www.maxxrad.net
email: fedora@maxxrad.net
On Tue, 17 Aug 2004, Edward Croft wrote:
> On Tue, 2004-08-17 at 10:59, Paul wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > > Pete. having lobbed the holy handgrenade slopes of into the dark
recesses to
> > > learn Linux on his own for fear of retribution :-)
> >
> > Nah, most of us are warm and cuddly penguin lovers :-)
> >
> > TTFN
> >
> > Paul
> So true. My diatribe was not meant as a personal attack towards anyone,
> but more to serve as gentle reminder that we all started at the
> beginning. Some of us progressed at a rapid pace absorbing all knowledge
> that dared to cross our path, others struggled, stumbled, but persevered
> in order to free themselves from the tyranny of the Emperor of
> Washington State. In any event, we are all pilgrims on the same path. I
> have been working with computers for twenty years. I still consider
> myself a novice. No matter how much you know, there is always more to
> learn.
>
> --
> Edward M. Croft
> Sr. Systems Engineer
> Open Ratings, Inc.
> 200 West Street
> Waltham, MA 02451-1121
>
>
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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2004 23:45:58 -0500 (EST)
From: mburger@bubbanfriends.org (Mike Burger)
Subject: server refused to allocate pty - FC2
To: fedora-list@redhat.com
Message-ID: <20040819044558.1ADD71809825@burgers.bubbanfriends.org>
Today, I noticed that I couldn't log ssh into my FC2 workstation.
Additionally, I couldn't open up any additional Konsole terms and actually
get a command prompt.
When attempting to ssh in via putty from a Windows machine, I get this:
login as: mburger
Sent username "mburger"
mburger@winblows.bubbanfriends.org's password:
Server refused to allocate pty
This is a 2.5GHz Athlon, 512MB RAM.  Ran RHL9 like a champ until this past
weekend.
Has anyone else seen this behavior?  If so, has anyone figured out how to
get around it?
Thanks.
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Message: 12
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 06:52:57 +0200
From: Alexander Dalloz <alexander.dalloz@uni-bielefeld.de>
Subject: Re: server refused to allocate pty - FC2
To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@redhat.com>
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Am Do, den 19.08.2004 schrieb Mike Burger um 6:45:
> Today, I noticed that I couldn't log ssh into my FC2 workstation.
>
> Additionally, I couldn't open up any additional Konsole terms and actually
> get a command prompt.
>
> When attempting to ssh in via putty from a Windows machine, I get this:
>
> login as: mburger
> Sent username "mburger"
> mburger@winblows.bubbanfriends.org's password:
> Server refused to allocate pty
> Has anyone else seen this behavior?  If so, has anyone figured out how to
> get around it?
How many pts' do run now on the machine in question? Did it run out of
resources?
ps a | grep -c pts
Alexander
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Fedora GNU/Linux Core 2 (Tettnang) kernel 2.6.7-1.494.2.2smp
Serendipity 06:48:34 up 15 days, 16 users, load average: 0.05, 0.13,
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Message: 13
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2004 23:53:11 -0500 (CDT)
From: Satish Balay <balay@fastmail.fm>
Subject: Re: server refused to allocate pty - FC2
To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@redhat.com>
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On Wed, 18 Aug 2004, Mike Burger wrote:
> Today, I noticed that I couldn't log ssh into my FC2 workstation.
>
> Additionally, I couldn't open up any additional Konsole terms and actually
> get a command prompt.
>
> When attempting to ssh in via putty from a Windows machine, I get this:
>
> login as: mburger
> Sent username "mburger"
> mburger@winblows.bubbanfriends.org's password:
> Server refused to allocate pty
>
> This is a 2.5GHz Athlon, 512MB RAM.  Ran RHL9 like a champ until this past
> weekend.
>
> Has anyone else seen this behavior?  If so, has anyone figured out how to
> get around it?
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=128154
Satish
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Message: 14
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 06:57:59 +0200
From: Olaf Mueller <daily-news@istari.de>
Subject: Advansys.ko in upcoming kernel update? -Please-
To: fedora-list@redhat.com
Message-ID: <cg1c0n$von$1@hobbingen.istari.de>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Hello,
does anybody know when the scsi card module advansys.ko will be again
integrated and useable by default configuration in common fc2 kernel
versions? Maybe in the next upcoming 2.6.7- Kernel update?
I really missed this module in kernel 2.6.7-1.494.2.2.i686.
regards
Olaf
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Message: 15
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 00:22:45 -0500
From: Mike Klinke <lsomike@futzin.com>
Subject: Re: Best Pie Chart Protocol Analyzer ??
To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <200408190022.45652.lsomike@futzin.com>
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On Wednesday 18 August 2004 22:07, Dave Rinker wrote:
> snort/acid is not what I'm looking for unfortunately.
>
> I ran this open source application and it displayed in a pie
> chart format similar to the acid display but was in real-time.
>
Are you thinking of ntop?
Regards, Mike Klinke
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Message: 16
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 14:46:42 +0800 (SGT)
From: Didier Casse <didierbe@sps.nus.edu.sg>
Subject: Re: RH8 Question
To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0408191445070.28181-100000@kepler>
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On 19/08/04, at 06:25 +0200, Alexander Dalloz
<alexander.dalloz@uni-bielefe...:
> Am Do, den 19.08.2004 schrieb Didier Casse um 5:46:
[...]
> I really don't remember ever told anyone to cover the version of you
> running kernel. Such a recommendation would make no sense. If you did
> understand my hint from my annotation about your posting of the result
> of "uname -r" as to hide any version information then you got it totally
> wrong. And I really hope you meanwhile upgraded your kernel ;) Because
> that was my point, to not run kernels with know security bugs which may
> used by attackers to get control over your host. Hiding kernel version
> information does not help.
>
Alright! :-) Yes I did upgrade from your suggestion. And now I upgrade
every night my system through yum. Thanks.
With kind regards,
Didier.
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Message: 17
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2004 15:56:42 +0100
From: Jim Higson <jh@333.org>
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Message: 18
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 19:38:45 -0400
From: Morgan Read <mstuff@pl.net>
Subject: Re: WiFi setup & FC2
To: tim@birdsnest.maths.tcd.ie,	For users of Fedora Core releases
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Hi Timothy,
Thanks.  I think commenting out the lines in modprobe.conf &
modules.conf was the break through I needed.  IP info I think I'll have
to extract from my uni network gurus, they'll be using dhcp I think.
Thanks again for you help.
Best regards,
Morgan.
Timothy Murphy wrote:
> Morgan Read wrote:
>
>
>>Thanks very much for your response & help.  Hope this isn't too long &
>>detailed, but it just got deeper & deeper...  But, some success by the
>>end.
>
>
> I'm no expert.
> It sounds to me as though you know as much about this subject as I do!
>
>
>>So, the "device" name is a function of the driver (hostap being wlan* &
>>orinoco being eth*), not the device?
>
>
> Yes, it is up to the author of the driver to decide what /dev/* he uses.
> I take it that by using the standard /dev/eth? the kernel WiFi modules
> share the usual Ethernet code, which I find reassuring.
>
>
>>Yes, there's an onboard ethernet device at eth0, but started manually -
>>not at boot (more on that below).
>
>
> I'm not sure if this is your point,
> but in my experience the first ethernet device the kernel meets
> will be called eth0, the second eth1, and so on.
> I don't think there is anything one can do about this,
> so if you want one device to be called eth0 you just have to ensure
> that it is encountered first by judicious use of rc.local, etc.
>
>
>>Hmm.  Did iwconfig eth0 and expected to get nothing, but got the card...
>>   So, if I don't start my ethernet as boot, as I don't, and do put in
>>my card then it'll take eth0 which has been set up for the wired
>>ethernet.  And, so if I start the ethernet now it'll take eth1?...  Well
>>actually system-config-network says eth0 not found and then shows it as
>>active, but I'd expect some weirdness wouldn't I?
>
>
> As I said, I think that is Life.
> I have 3 ethernet devices on my desktop -
> eth0 for my Ethernet ADSL modem, eth1 for a local ethernet network,
> and eth2 for WiFi.
> If eth0 or eth1 don't start for some reason everything becomes confused.
>
>
>>Is this going to be as much of a pain as it seems now - can I give an
>>alias or something to take the card off the "eth*" devices and put it on
>>the "wlan*" devices?
>
>
> With respect, you seem to me to be making your life complicated.
> I would just stick to the kernel driver and see if you can get that
working,
> and if you can't then go over to wlan-ng.
>
>
>>[root@morgansmachine morgan]# /sbin/ifconfig eth1
>>eth1      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:30:84:1F:AE:F7
>>           BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
>>           RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
>>           TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
>>           collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
>>           RX bytes:0 (0.0 b)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 b)
>>           Interrupt:3 Base address:0x100
>>
>>[root@morgansmachine morgan]# /sbin/iwconfig eth1
>>eth1      IEEE 802.11-DS  ESSID:""  Nickname:"Prism  I"
>>           Mode:Managed  Access Point: 00:00:00:00:00:00  Bit Rate:11Mb/s
>>           Tx-Power=15 dBm   Sensitivity:1/3
>>           Retry min limit:8   RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off
>>           Encryption key:off
>>           Power Management:off
>>           Link Quality:0/92  Signal level:-68 dBm  Noise level:-122 dBm
>>           Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0
>>           Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:0   Missed beacon:0
>>*******************************************************
>
>
> This looks to me as though your card is working,
> but doesn't have an IP address associated to it.
> Eg on the laptop I'm using now (with WiFi) I get
> ===========================================================
> [tim@william net]$ iwconfig eth0
> eth0      IEEE 802.11-DS  ESSID:"maths.tcd.ie"
Nickname:"william.murphy.ie"
>           Mode:Managed  Frequency:2.457GHz  Access Point:
02:02:2D:4A:52:80
>           Bit Rate=11Mb/s   Tx-Power=15 dBm   Sensitivity:1/3
>           Retry limit:4   RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off
>           Power Management:off
>           Link Quality:74/92  Signal level:-74 dBm  Noise level:-121 dBm
>           Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:62
>           Tx excessive retries:307  Invalid misc:0   Missed beacon:0
>
> [tim@william net]$ ifconfig eth0
> eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:02:2D:3F:2D:4D
>           inet addr:192.168.3.5  Bcast:192.168.3.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
>           UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
>           RX packets:5450 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
>           TX packets:5873 errors:20 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
>           collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
>           RX bytes:2052448 (1.9 Mb)  TX bytes:1777084 (1.6 Mb)
>           Interrupt:3 Base address:0x100
> ===========================================================
>
> I get this IP address because /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
> reads
> ===========================================================
> [tim@william net]$ cat /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
> # Please read /usr/share/doc/initscripts-*/sysconfig.txt
> # for the documentation of these parameters.
> USERCTL=no
> PEERDNS=no
> GATEWAY=192.168.3.1
> TYPE=Wireless
> DEVICE=eth0
> HWADDR=00:02:2d:3f:2d:4d
> BOOTPROTO=none
> NETMASK=255.255.255.0
> ONBOOT=no
> DHCP_HOSTNAME=william
> IPADDR=192.168.3.5
> NAME=
> DOMAIN=
> ESSID=maths.tcd.ie
> CHANNEL=1
> MODE=Managed
> RATE=11Mb/s
> NETWORK=192.168.3.0
> BROADCAST=192.168.3.255
> IPV6INIT=no
> ===========================================================
>
> (Nb this must have been created for me by system-config-network
> or the equivalent GUI program on the System Settings menu,
> as I would never have put in all that info!)
>
>
>>Aug 18 22:56:19 localhost kernel: hermes @ IO 0x100: Timeout waiting for
>>command completion.
>>Aug 18 22:56:19 localhost kernel: hermes @ IO 0x100: Error -16 issuing
>>command.
>>Aug 18 22:56:51 localhost last message repeated 417 times
>
>
> I'm not sure what these messages mean.
> There is an Orinoco-Users mailing list
> <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/orinoco-users>
> which the author of the kernel code reads I believe.
>
> Also the great expert on the kernel WiFi modules is this guy
> <http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/Linux/>
> He has a list of WiFi cards and appropriate drivers.
>
>
>
>
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