Re: fedora-list Digest, Vol 9, Issue 408

From: Hans Ottens (hottens_at_rogers.com)
Date: 11/25/04

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    Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 22:56:47 -0500
    
    

    Yes, learning to work with the udev is the answer. The PC-PalmIIIex link
    works after every PC reboot (just for experimenting). Thanks.

    Hans Ottens

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    > Today's Topics:
    >
    > 1. Re: Where are we going in the Fedora development?
    > (John Summerfield)
    > 2. Re: FC2 and RPM (Rahul Sundaram)
    > 3. Re: sshd: it is permit to login with a Empty Password
    > (William Hooper)
    > 4. Re: FC3, minimun install and XForwarding (Fernando Gozalo)
    > 5. Re: kernel-2.6.9-1.6_FC2 boot failure where
    > kernel-2.6.9-1.3_FC2 works (John Summerfield)
    > 6. Re: FC3 Seems to "Freeze" sometimes (John Summerfield)
    > 7. Re: How to block a range of IP's with
    > system-config-securitylevel-tui? (John Summerfield)
    > 8. Re: Serial terminal emulator (fredex)
    > 9. Re: FC3 Seems to "Freeze" sometimes (Colin O'Flynn)
    > 10. Re: kernel-2.6.9-1.6_FC2 boot failure where
    > kernel-2.6.9-1.3_FC2 works (William Hooper)
    > 11. Anybody got FC3 installed on software raid-1 with Grub
    > (Yusuf Goolamabbas)
    > 12. Re: Can't get shockwave viewer to install in FC3 (Kim Lux)
    > 13. Re: BOOBY TRAPS? (Rodolfo J. Paiz)
    > 14. Re: Palm Pilot and FC3 - Again! (Thomas Zehetbauer)
    > 15. Re: Server Tools Don't Prompt for Root Password (Randy Chrismon)
    > 16. Re: BOOBY TRAPS? (Arthur Stephens)
    > 17. Re: kernel-2.6.9-1.6_FC2 boot failure where
    > kernel-2.6.9-1.3_FC2 works (Rahul Sundaram)
    > 18. Re: BOOBY TRAPS? (Rahul Sundaram)
    >
    >
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    >
    > Message: 1
    > Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2004 07:14:54 +0800
    > From: John Summerfield <debian@herakles.homelinux.org>
    > Subject: Re: Where are we going in the Fedora development?
    > To: fedora-list@redhat.com
    > Message-ID: <200411250714.55050.debian@herakles.homelinux.org>
    > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
    >
    > On Thursday 25 November 2004 00:07, akonstam@trinity.edu wrote:
    > > Once again I want to share something but don't want to start a rant.
    > >
    > > I finally got FC3 installed and have serious questions as to where
    > > this Fedora Development is going. Are changes being made for good
    > > reason or just to be different? Is there good reason to have two
    > > panels on the screen (at top and bottom) instead of one, two
    >
    > That's Gnome 2.8. Compare with Ubuntu, a Debian-based distro. It's a single-CD
    > install (but essentiall all of Debian downloadable after installation).
    >
    > It also does some things better than FC does.
    >
    > > essentially equivalent menus under different icons, logout hidden in a
    > > different place, etc.
    > > My reaction to having changes made in resolv.conf disappear after a
    > > reboot was not a positive one. Luckily I had a hint of why this was
    > > happening in a previous posting.
    >
    > dhcp has done that for ever. pppd has too, but that's configurable.
    >
    >
    > >
    > > I could go on with changes like udev and /media in place of /mnt but
    > /media is LSB compliance. Debian does it too. Previously RH and Debian
    > differed.
    >
    > > you get the idea. Are these changes caused by a overwhelming goal that
    > > trumps the confusion they cause.
    > >
    > > In the back of my mind I would like Windows users to switch to Linux seeing
    > > it can be presented in as friendly appearance as Windows is to them.
    >
    > Windows changes too. Get new Windows, likely you'll need new apps. Sometimes,
    > get new Windows SP & need new apps.
    >
    >
    >
    > --
    > Cheers
    > John
    >
    >
    >
    > ------------------------------
    >
    > Message: 2
    > Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2004 04:44:01 +0530
    > From: Rahul Sundaram <rahulsundaram@gmail.com>
    > Subject: Re: FC2 and RPM
    > To: dave.woolcock@spamcop.net, For users of Fedora Core releases
    > <fedora-list@redhat.com>
    > Message-ID: <c79487d6041124151476cb893e@mail.gmail.com>
    > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
    >
    > On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 22:50:01 +0000, dave.woolcock@spamcop.net
    > <dave.woolcock@spamcop.net> wrote:
    > > On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 21:51:47 -0600 (CST), you wrote:
    > >
    > > >Oh you mean - install some RPM built for SUSE 8.0 on FC3?
    > >
    > > er, yes - I thought you could do that.
    > >
    > > Otherwise Linux is worse than Windoze DLL hell
    >
    > not really. its just that they are likely to be incompatible which has
    > nothing to do with shared libraries
    >
    >
    > --
    > Regards,
    > Rahul Sundaram
    >
    >
    >
    > ------------------------------
    >
    > Message: 3
    > Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 18:29:23 -0500 (EST)
    > From: "William Hooper" <whooperhsd3@earthlink.net>
    > Subject: Re: sshd: it is permit to login with a Empty Password
    > To: fedora-list@redhat.com
    > Message-ID: <1444.192.168.0.254.1101338963.squirrel@whooper.org>
    > Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1
    >
    >
    > Dario Lesca said:
    > > On a standard installation of FC1 and FC2 (and FC3?) is permit to login
    > > with a user with a empty password ... is this correct?
    >
    > No, it doesn't.
    >
    > > [root@igloo root]# man sshd_config
    > >
    > >> PermitEmptyPasswords
    > >> When password authentication is allowed, it specifies whether the
    > >> server allows login to accounts with empty password strings. The default
    > >> is no.
    >
    > The default is to not allow empty password strings.
    >
    > > [root@igloo root]# grep PermitEmptyPasswords /etc/ssh/sshd_config
    > > #PermitEmptyPasswords no
    >
    > If, for what ever reason I can't conceive, you would want to allow people
    > to log in via ssh without a password, uncomment this line and change it to
    > "yes". First, though, make sure your machine is sufficiently isolated
    > from any insecure network (like the Internet).
    >
    > --
    > William Hooper
    >
    >
    >
    > ------------------------------
    >
    > Message: 4
    > Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2004 00:32:28 +0100 (CET)
    > From: "Fernando Gozalo" <fgozalo0@alumno.uned.es>
    > Subject: Re: FC3, minimun install and XForwarding
    > To: "For users of Fedora Core releases" <fedora-list@redhat.com>
    > Message-ID: <12959.80.58.4.107.1101339148.squirrel@80.58.4.107>
    > Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1
    >
    > > On Wed, 24 Nov 2004, Fernando Gozalo wrote:
    > >
    > >> Hi,
    > >>
    > >> I have done a FC3 minimun install in a server. I have tried to ssh to
    > >> the
    > >> server with XForwarding but with no success.
    > >>
    > >> I've tried several things:
    > >> . from a FC2 to this FC3 with "ssh -X server"
    > >> . from a FC3 to this FC3 with "ssh -X server" and "ssh -Y server"
    > >>
    > >> No XForwarding :(
    > >>
    > >> So, I think I need to install other package/packages, but don't know.
    > >>
    > >> Any hint?
    > >
    > > You'll need atleast 'xauth' to have ssh-x11-forwarding working. Try:
    > >
    > > yum install xorg-x11-xauth
    > >
    > > Satish
    > >
    >
    > It works.
    >
    > Gracias.
    > Fernando.
    >
    >
    >
    > ------------------------------
    >
    > Message: 5
    > Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2004 06:51:26 +0800
    > From: John Summerfield <debian@herakles.homelinux.org>
    > Subject: Re: kernel-2.6.9-1.6_FC2 boot failure where
    > kernel-2.6.9-1.3_FC2 works
    > To: fedora-list@redhat.com
    > Message-ID: <200411250651.26683.debian@herakles.homelinux.org>
    > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
    >
    > On Wednesday 24 November 2004 23:01, Aleksandar Milivojevic wrote:
    > > This doesn't solve the original problems of labels not working. But
    > > IMHO, labels were bad idea to begin with, so I can't say I feel sorry
    > > for seeing them not working ;-)
    >
    > Labels are a good idea implemented poorly. The kernel should whinge loutly
    > when it sees duplicates.
    >
    > My background is in IBM mainframes. Even as far back as OS (aka OS/360)
    > storage volumes (disk ^ such and tape) were labelled. OS complained whenever
    > it saw two volumes with the same "volume serial number."
    >
    > Back then, disk volumes held no more than one filesystem.
    >
    > There was never any confustion about duplicates because they were always
    > announced at the time. During IPL the operator had to choose one; once the
    > system was up the newer one was unmounted.
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > --
    > Cheers
    > John
    >
    >
    >
    > ------------------------------
    >
    > Message: 6
    > Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2004 06:30:33 +0800
    > From: John Summerfield <debian@herakles.homelinux.org>
    > Subject: Re: FC3 Seems to "Freeze" sometimes
    > To: fedora-list@redhat.com
    > Message-ID: <200411250630.33726.debian@herakles.homelinux.org>
    > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
    >
    > On Wednesday 24 November 2004 22:07, P Jones wrote:
    > > In FC2 a problem that sounds like the problem you're having was traced
    > > to Klipper,
    >
    > That sounds entirely consistent with my observations.
    >
    >
    > --
    > Cheers
    > John
    >
    >
    >
    > ------------------------------
    >
    > Message: 7
    > Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2004 06:28:12 +0800
    > From: John Summerfield <debian@herakles.homelinux.org>
    > Subject: Re: How to block a range of IP's with
    > system-config-securitylevel-tui?
    > To: fedora-list@redhat.com
    > Message-ID: <200411250628.12971.debian@herakles.homelinux.org>
    > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
    >
    > On Wednesday 24 November 2004 21:51, Vinicius wrote:
    > > I get this URL about shorewall
    > > "http://www.shorewall.net/shorewall_setup_guide.htm". I will read it soon.
    > >
    > > Can it be integrated with FC3's netfilter/iptables?
    >
    > This and many more questions will be ansered as you read that document.
    >
    > >
    > > Could you show us a simple configuration about the "cans" and
    > > "cannots", please?
    >
    > Once you understand the topic it's quite simple but there are several files
    > involved.
    >
    > One normally defines z series of zones, and mostly each zone is on a its own
    > interface.
    >
    > In this particular case, there was only one interface but I wanted different
    > access rules for each of three groups of addresses.
    >
    >
    > It seems in any event I can't send any of the config to the list; the box
    > seems to be down atm.
    >
    >
    >
    > --
    > Cheers
    > John
    >
    >
    >
    > ------------------------------
    >
    > Message: 8
    > Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 18:41:38 -0500
    > From: fredex <fredex@fcshome.stoneham.ma.us>
    > Subject: Re: Serial terminal emulator
    > To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@redhat.com>
    > Message-ID: <20041124234138.GA11651@fcshome.stoneham.ma.us>
    > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
    >
    > On Wed, Nov 24, 2004 at 09:07:56PM +0100, Jakub Roguski wrote:
    > > Hi all,
    > > I very often have to configure devices, which use serial port and null-modem
    > > cable for communication. I'm looking for the most comfortable solution of
    > > VT100 terminal emulator running over serial port on FC3. I tried minicom, but
    > > would like something easier to use. Any idea? Maybe a way to use linux
    > > terminal together with serial port? Or simple VT100 emulator using serial?
    >
    > I seemto recall having found that PUTTY has a linux version. But whether
    > that is true or not, the linux console is more or less a superset of
    > vt100 (as long as you don't want the keys to work like vt100 keys),
    > and the xterm also works reasonably in lieu of vt100.
    >
    > Fred
    >
    > --
    > ---- Fred Smith -- fredex@fcshome.stoneham.ma.us -----------------------------
    > The Lord detests the way of the wicked
    > but he loves those who pursue righteousness.
    > ----------------------------- Proverbs 15:9 (niv) -----------------------------
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    >
    > Message: 9
    > Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 19:45:12 -0400
    > From: "Colin O'Flynn" <coflynn@newae.com>
    > Subject: Re: FC3 Seems to "Freeze" sometimes
    > To: fedora-list@redhat.com
    > Message-ID: <200411241945.12449.coflynn@newae.com>
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    >
    > Okay - I want to try disabling the acrobat plugin in Firefox. However I can't
    > seem to do that...
    >
    > I don't know what I've done wrong, I can't find any reference to acrobat or a
    > file with a name pdf in it as I am supposed to in the /usr/lib/firefox-1.0/
    > directory. Nor can I find mention of it in any of the preference files to the
    > best of my knowledge...
    >
    > Anyone got some hints? I don't fully remember how I installed Acrobat - it was
    > with the provided script I think.
    >
    > Regards,
    >
    > -Colin
    >
    >
    >
    > ------------------------------
    >
    > Message: 10
    > Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 18:45:59 -0500 (EST)
    > From: "William Hooper" <whooperhsd3@earthlink.net>
    > Subject: Re: kernel-2.6.9-1.6_FC2 boot failure where
    > kernel-2.6.9-1.3_FC2 works
    > To: fedora-list@redhat.com
    > Message-ID: <1518.192.168.0.254.1101339959.squirrel@whooper.org>
    > Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1
    >
    >
    > John Summerfield said:
    > > On Wednesday 24 November 2004 23:01, Aleksandar Milivojevic wrote:
    > >
    > >> This doesn't solve the original problems of labels not working. But
    > >> IMHO, labels were bad idea to begin with, so I can't say I feel sorry
    > >> for seeing them not working ;-)
    > >
    > > Labels are a good idea implemented poorly. The kernel should whinge
    > > loutly when it sees duplicates.
    >
    > IIUC the kernel knows nothing of labels. They are a purely a userland
    > concept (which is why you must use an initrd if you wish to use them).
    >
    > --
    > William Hooper
    >
    >
    >
    > ------------------------------
    >
    > Message: 11
    > Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2004 07:49:16 +0800
    > From: Yusuf Goolamabbas <yusufg@outblaze.com>
    > Subject: Anybody got FC3 installed on software raid-1 with Grub
    > To: fedora-list@redhat.com
    > Message-ID: <20041124234916.GA11958@outblaze.com>
    > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
    >
    > Hi, There seems to be a number of bugs relating to Grub not installing
    > well on software raid-1 config. The symptoms seem to be that after a
    > install, the system just hangs on boot
    >
    > http://tinyurl.com/6t2vz
    >
    > expands to a bugzilla query of 'grub raid'.
    > If someone has successfully installed FC3 on a software raid-1 system
    > (without LVM) then I would appreciate info regarding their hardware
    > config and steps they took (if they were different from standard
    > install)
    >
    > There is a workaround of updating the MBR in rescue mode but that
    > doesn't work in all cases
    >
    > http://www.fedoraforum.org/forum/showthread.php?t=26912
    >
    > Regards, Yusuf
    > --
    > Yusuf Goolamabbas
    > yusufg@outblaze.com
    >
    >
    >
    > ------------------------------
    >
    > Message: 12
    > Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 17:03:00 -0700
    > From: Kim Lux <lux@diesel-research.com>
    > Subject: Re: Can't get shockwave viewer to install in FC3
    > To: fedora-list@redhat.com
    > Message-ID: <1101340980.3719.12.camel@zd7280.localdomain>
    > Content-Type: text/plain
    >
    >
    > Thanks for the link to the flashviewer rpm.
    >
    > It installed fine, ie without errors on my FC3, but doesn't install
    > flash for konqueror. Firefox used flash fine.
    >
    > rpm returns this (plus messages about NOID !)
    >
    > Registering flashplayer as a XPCOM component in
    > /usr/lib/mozilla-1.7.3
    >
    > Registering flashplayer as a XPCOM component in
    > /usr/lib/firefox-1.0
    > Setup is complete.
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > On Wed, 2004-11-24 at 15:56 -0700, Kim Lux wrote:
    > > Not only did it not take the install path properly, but it started some
    > > sort of rogue process on my machine ! My laptop fan went nuts and I did
    > > a top and found a macromedia process running ! What is up with that ?
    > >
    > > I very much dislike installing third party closed source software that
    > > comes from the Internet. I killed the macromedia process. A few
    > > minutes later my fan went nuts again. This time top showed the process
    > > "top" running at 98% cpu usage. I rebooted and now the process list
    > > looks OK.
    > >
    > > I need shockwave to view a website. Anyone else had this
    > > experience ?
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > On Wed, 2004-11-24 at 15:43 -0700, Kim Lux wrote:
    > > >
    > > > #./flashplayer-installer
    > > >
    > > > Copyright(C) 2002-2003 Macromedia, Inc. All rights reserved.
    > > >
    > > > Macromedia Flash Player 7 for Linux
    > > >
    > > > Macromedia Flash Player 7 will be installed on this machine.
    > > >
    > > > You are running the Macromedia Flash Player installer as the "root"
    > > > user.
    > > > Macromedia Flash Player 7 will be installed system-wide.
    > > >
    > > > Support is available at http://www.macromedia.com/support/flashplayer/
    > > >
    > > > To install Macromedia Flash Player 7 now, press ENTER.
    > > >
    > > > To cancel the installation at any time, press Control-C.
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > NOTE: Macromedia Flash Player requires two font packages
    > > > to be installed, ttfonts and urw-fonts.
    > > >
    > > > Press ENTER to continue...
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > NOTE: Please exit any browsers you may have running.
    > > >
    > > > Press ENTER to continue...
    > > >
    > > > Please enter the installation path of the Mozilla, Netscape,
    > > > or Opera browser (i.e., /usr/lib/mozilla): /usr/lib
    > > >
    > > > WARNING: Please enter a valid installation path.
    > > >
    > > > Please enter the installation path of the Mozilla, Netscape,
    > > > or Opera browser (i.e., /usr/lib/mozilla): /usr/lib/mozilla
    > > >
    > > > WARNING: Please enter a valid installation path.
    > > >
    > > > Please enter the installation path of the Mozilla, Netscape,
    > > > or Opera browser (i.e., /usr/lib/mozilla): /usr/bin
    > > >
    > > > WARNING: Please enter a valid installation path.
    > > >
    > > > Please enter the installation path of the Mozilla, Netscape,
    > > > or Opera browser (i.e., /usr/lib/mozilla):
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > # find / -name konqueror
    > > > /usr/bin/konqueror
    > > > /usr/share/apps/konqueror
    > > > /usr/share/doc/HTML/en/konqueror
    > > > /home/krlux/.kde/share/apps/konqueror
    > > > /home/sheri/.kde/share/apps/konqueror
    > > > /root/.kde/share/apps/konqueror
    > > >
    > > > # find / -name mozilla
    > > > /usr/lib/mozilla
    > > > /usr/bin/mozilla
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > --
    > Kim Lux (Mr.) Diesel Research Inc
    >
    >
    >
    > ------------------------------
    >
    > Message: 13
    > Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 18:13:56 -0600
    > From: "Rodolfo J. Paiz" <rpaiz@simpaticus.com>
    > Subject: Re: BOOBY TRAPS?
    > To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@redhat.com>
    > Message-ID: <1101341636.3668.59.camel@rodolfo.gt.factorrent.com>
    > Content-Type: text/plain
    >
    > On Wed, 2004-11-24 at 14:57 -0800, Arthur Stephens wrote:
    > > Doing a server new install yesterday.
    > > Came in this morning and there was this message on the console of my
    > > fedora3 box
    > >
    > > BOOBY TRAPS
    > > INIT: version 2.85 reloading
    > >
    >
    > You may safely disregard the "INIT" line. It comes up now and again but
    > is entirely harmless. The "booby traps" line I have never seen, but it
    > sure as hell does not sound good.
    >
    > Is this box connected to a network or the Internet? Is it firewalled?
    > Did you check the logs? Is it even remotely possible that it has been
    > cracked?
    >
    > Cheers,
    >
    > --
    > Rodolfo J. Paiz <rpaiz@simpaticus.com>
    >
    >
    >
    > ------------------------------
    >
    > Message: 14
    > Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2004 01:15:14 +0100
    > From: Thomas Zehetbauer <thomasz@hostmaster.org>
    > Subject: Re: Palm Pilot and FC3 - Again!
    > To: fedora-list@redhat.com
    > Message-ID: <1101341714.4260.5.camel@hostmaster.org>
    > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
    >
    > Manual symlinks in /dev do not work with udev, add the following line
    > to /etc/udev/rules.d/10-local.rules:
    > KERNEL="ttyUSB1",SYMLINK="pilot"
    >
    > Permissions on /dev/pilot are given to every user logging on locally,
    > this is specified in /etc/security/console.perms and processed upon
    > login and when udev creates entries device entries.
    >
    > Tom
    >
    > --
    > T h o m a s Z e h e t b a u e r ( TZ251 )
    > PGP encrypted mail preferred - KeyID 96FFCB89
    > finger thomasz@hostmaster.org for key
    >
    > Attempting to apply the OSI layers model to a real network is just like
    > attempting to represent seven dimensions in four dimensional reality.
    >
    >
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    > Message: 15
    > Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 19:20:06 -0500
    > From: Randy Chrismon <rchrismon@patmedia.net>
    > Subject: Re: Server Tools Don't Prompt for Root Password
    > To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@redhat.com>
    > Message-ID: <41A52536.4090000@patmedia.net>
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    >
    > Matthew Miller wrote:
    >
    > >On Tue, Nov 23, 2004 at 08:54:45PM -0500, Randy Chrismon wrote:
    > >
    > >
    > >> <snip>
    > >
    > >
    > >>From the 'rpm' man page -- the "M" means the 'mode' (a.k.a. file
    > >permissions) have changed. And, as the first error message above indicates,
    > >this binary needs to be setuid root -- that is, owned by root and have the
    > >setuid file permission.
    > >
    > >
    > >Have you run any scripts to "secure" your system? An overzealous [1]
    > >security sweep could very easily choose to remove that bit....
    > >
    > >
    > >(The "G" is also a little bit disturbing -- it means the group ownership has
    > >changed, and on my system, it's in group "root". Odd for that to change.)
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > Mea culpa! Mea maxima culpa!
    > Two lessons: 1. I don't know what I'm doing, generally, and particularly
    > with file permissions and user rights. 2. Don't do things when you don't
    > know what you're doing.
    > A few days before I noticed the problem, I did a chown on one of the
    > /usr subdirectories (I don't even remember which one, now) so I could
    > execute an executable of some sort. That's probably where things got
    > messed up. Don't ask me what I was thinking because I probably wasn't.
    >
    > Anyway, I've changed the user:group back to root:root. Now, I don't even
    > get the insufficient privileges message box. Whatever system setting app
    > now just refuses to start. OTOH, now I know what I did wrong, where I
    > did it, and what man pages to look at. Thanks for all the help; I
    > wouldn't have made it this far, otherwise.
    > Randy
    >
    >
    >
    > ------------------------------
    >
    > Message: 16
    > Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 16:30:30 -0800
    > From: "Arthur Stephens" <astephens@ptera.net>
    > Subject: Re: BOOBY TRAPS?
    > To: "For users of Fedora Core releases" <fedora-list@redhat.com>
    > Message-ID: <0e2c01c4d285$f7eacca0$c600a8c0@tyliteworker>
    > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
    >
    > Brand new install on 11/22/04. Connected on our local 192.168.0.x network
    > on 11/23/04
    > It was firewalled before being connected.
    > Could not find anything unusual in the logs.
    >
    > ----- Original Message -----
    > From: "Rodolfo J. Paiz" <rpaiz@simpaticus.com>
    > To: "For users of Fedora Core releases" <fedora-list@redhat.com>
    > Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 4:13 PM
    > Subject: Re: BOOBY TRAPS?
    >
    >
    > > On Wed, 2004-11-24 at 14:57 -0800, Arthur Stephens wrote:
    > > > Doing a server new install yesterday.
    > > > Came in this morning and there was this message on the console of my
    > > > fedora3 box
    > > >
    > > > BOOBY TRAPS
    > > > INIT: version 2.85 reloading
    > > >
    > >
    > > You may safely disregard the "INIT" line. It comes up now and again but
    > > is entirely harmless. The "booby traps" line I have never seen, but it
    > > sure as hell does not sound good.
    > >
    > > Is this box connected to a network or the Internet? Is it firewalled?
    > > Did you check the logs? Is it even remotely possible that it has been
    > > cracked?
    > >
    > > Cheers,
    > >
    > > --
    > > Rodolfo J. Paiz <rpaiz@simpaticus.com>
    > >
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    >
    >
    > ------------------------------
    >
    > Message: 17
    > Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2004 06:01:05 +0530
    > From: Rahul Sundaram <rahulsundaram@gmail.com>
    > Subject: Re: kernel-2.6.9-1.6_FC2 boot failure where
    > kernel-2.6.9-1.3_FC2 works
    > To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@redhat.com>
    > Message-ID: <c79487d604112416312724e441@mail.gmail.com>
    > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
    >
    > On Thu, 25 Nov 2004 06:51:26 +0800, John Summerfield
    > <debian@herakles.homelinux.org> wrote:
    > > On Wednesday 24 November 2004 23:01, Aleksandar Milivojevic wrote:
    > > > This doesn't solve the original problems of labels not working. But
    > > > IMHO, labels were bad idea to begin with, so I can't say I feel sorry
    > > > for seeing them not working ;-)
    > >
    > > Labels are a good idea implemented poorly. The kernel should whinge loutly
    > > when it sees duplicates.
    >
    > officially devlabel is depreciated in favor of udev. so i guess your
    > problem should go away soon
    >
    > --
    > Regards,
    > Rahul Sundaram
    >
    >
    >
    > ------------------------------
    >
    > Message: 18
    > Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2004 06:02:37 +0530
    > From: Rahul Sundaram <rahulsundaram@gmail.com>
    > Subject: Re: BOOBY TRAPS?
    > To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@redhat.com>
    > Message-ID: <c79487d60411241632714f97bb@mail.gmail.com>
    > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
    >
    > On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 14:57:30 -0800, Arthur Stephens <astephens@ptera.net> wrote:
    > >
    > > Doing a server new install yesterday.
    > > Came in this morning and there was this message on the console of my
    > > fedora3 box
    > >
    > > BOOBY TRAPS
    > > INIT: version 2.85 reloading
    > >
    >
    >
    > suggestion: download the kernel source code and grep it. If this line
    > is not in the kernel your machine is probably cracked
    >
    > download chkroot and rkhunter and make sure its not trojaned
    >
    >

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