Re: ATTN SELF-STYLED LIST POLICE (was RE: Mr. Day)

From: Gene Heskett (gene.heskett_at_verizon.net)
Date: 12/07/04

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Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2004 09:34:06 -0500

    On Tuesday 07 December 2004 01:59, Thomas Cameron wrote:
    >On Tue, 2004-12-07 at 13:50 +0800, John Summerfield wrote:
    >> Thank you Gene.
    >>
    >> I've never said more than "please post no HTML" and, when provoked
    >> then provided some reasons.
    >
    >Then my post certainly wasn't directed at you. I think I made clear
    >over and over that I was talking to the people on this list who take
    > a "holier than thou," condescending or downright rude tone with
    > newcomers.
    >
    >> I am offended at the rudeness of people such as Thomas.
    >
    >I am truly sorry if you are offended.
    >
    >> There are many factors
    >> that go to _my_ choice of email client, and its ability to render
    >> HTML and Javascript does not rank. I chose one to suit _my_
    >> requirements.
    >
    >Great - I agree with your reasoning. I think that is the only way
    > to choose any tool. BUT - if 92-93% of the list uses MUAs which
    > handle HTML just fine, how is it reasonable that that 92-93% should
    > change their ways to support the 7-8% of the list members who
    > voluntarily choose to use an MUA which doesn't handle HTML?

    I believe your estimates of how many actually use html might be based
    on an examination of the headers to determine the MUA used. However,
    since its switchable in most MUA's, I dare say that the members of
    this list that actually use html as a default mode probably can be
    estimated at under 1%, and thats certainly _not a majority_.

    >Don't get me wrong - I personally don't like HTML mail, and I prefer
    >bottom posting. But I refuse to get all lathered up about it when
    > some new user top/HTML posts. I might shoot them a gentle
    > explanation of list etiquette. At worst I'll delete the message.
    > But at no time will I be publicly derogatory towards him/her. That
    > hurts the community.

    Agreed, except for posting position, as you can see I intersperse so
    that the context of the conversation is preserved. However, I do
    have a certain frustration level for those that quote 3 to 5 pages of
    the previous message before replying at the bottom. Such messages
    tend to get skimmed and passed by when there may actualy be a nugget
    of knowledge buried in such a post from time to time. It should be
    possible to scroll the message such that the instant context is
    largely onscreen in one view, it tends to make for a more cogent
    response, at least from this poster. 

    -- 
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