input method on fc3?

From: arincon (arincon_at_vodafone.es)
Date: 01/17/05

  • Next message: Alexander Apprich: "Re: FC3 and soundcard"
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    Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 12:08:45 +0100
    
    

    Hello,

    How can be used the input method for Chinese and other non-latin scripts?

    Sincerely,

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       1. Re: Why does dovecot require mysql? (Dag Wieers)
       2. xmms chinese (Michael Lee)
       3. Re: FC3 and soundcard (Didier Cassereau)
       4. Re: Need a complete config walkthrough for Samba/Winbind on
          RH or Fedora - samba 3 (Craig White)
       5. Re: Saving my panels before upgrade (Thomas Taylor)
       6. java developpers under FC3 ? (hicham)
       7. Re: xmms chinese (Gene Heskett)
       8. Re: FC3 and soundcard (Alexander Apprich)
       9. Re: Why do I need mDNSResponder/howl? (Paul Howarth)
      10. Re: Why do I need mDNSResponder/howl? (Rahul Sundaram)
      11. Livna.org (Tibor-Attila ANCA)
      12. Re: How to see number of pci-slots (Kam Leo)
      13. Re: FC3 and soundcard (Didier Cassereau)
      14. java developpers under FC3 ? (hicham)
      15. epson printer maintenance utility (Duncan Lithgow)
      16. Re: How to see number of pci-slots (Alexander Apprich)

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    Message: 1
    Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 10:23:58 +0100 (CET)
    From: Dag Wieers <dag@wieers.com>
    Subject: Re: Why does dovecot require mysql?
    To: Rahul Sundaram <rahulsundaram@gmail.com>, For users of Fedora Core
            releases <fedora-list@redhat.com>
    Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0501171014120.921@horsea.3ti.be>
    Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

    On Mon, 17 Jan 2005, Rahul Sundaram wrote:

    > > > You are overstating the security risk of a single library package
    > > > that is unused.
    > >
    > > Single library? It looked to me as if the whole set of files that
    > > make up mysql and postgresql were being pulled in and loaded on the
    > > system.
    >
    > bloat is a more valid point that security risks IMHO.
    >
    > disabled services dont present much of a security risk.

    200k for the postgresql library, 100k for the mysql library, kerberos
    support alone is more 'bloated' than 300k.

    If you mean the mysql client library is part of a 5MB package and requires
    a dozen perl packages, maybe. It may be unfortunate that you need it even
    when you don't use it.

    But then again, look at the rest of your system and what stuff you have
    installed that you may never use. /usr/share/doc, locale, the terminal
    emulation stuff, maybe some -devel packages you didn't know were there.

    5MB is peanuts and a small price to pay for the flexibility of having both
    mysql and postgresql support and not having to manage every permutation
    of functionality. You know what distribution you end up having if you go
    there... :)

    -- dag wieers, dag@wieers.com, http://dag.wieers.com/ --
    [all I want is a warm bed and a kind word and unlimited power]

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    Message: 2
    Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 23:17:29 +0800
    From: Michael Lee <mic_kklee@yahoo.com.hk>
    Subject: xmms chinese
    To: fedora-list@redhat.com
    Message-ID: <41EA8589.10707@yahoo.com.hk>
    Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Big5

    How can I see chinese in the playlist of xmms ?

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    Message: 3
    Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 10:33:50 +0100
    From: Didier Cassereau <didier.cassereau@espci.fr>
    Subject: Re: FC3 and soundcard
    To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@redhat.com>
    Message-ID: <41EB867E.1060605@espci.fr>
    Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

    Alexander Apprich wrote:
    > Didier Cassereau wrote:
    >
    >> Hello everybody,
    >>
    >> I use FC3 + kernel 2.6.9-1.724_FC3smp ; the sound card is identified
    >> without problems and sound works fine.
    >>
    >> I tried with kernel 2.6.10-1.737_FC3smp ; the auto detection of the
    >> sound card works and yields the same as with kernel
    >> 2.6.9-1.724_FC3smp. But sound does not work !
    >> I have the same problem with kernel 2.6.10-1.741_FC3smp.
    >>
    >> Does somebody have an idea or a suggestion ?
    >>
    >> Also I never could listen an audio CD ; the CD is read and the tracks
    >> are listed correctly, but no sound.
    >
    >
    > Okay, what soundcard do you have? What modules were loaded with kernel
    > 2.6.9-1.724_FC3smp? Did you check /etc/modprobe.conf?
    >
    > apprich@elmstreet apprich $ grep snd /etc/modprobe.conf
    > alias snd-card-0 snd-intel8x0
    > options snd-card-0 index=0
    > install snd-intel8x0 /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-intel8x0 &&
    > /usr/sbin/alsactl restore >/dev/null 2>&1 || :
    > remove snd-intel8x0 { /usr/sbin/alsactl store >/dev/null 2>&1 || : ; };
    > /sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove snd-intel8x0
    >

    My /etc/modprobe.conf is exactly the same:
    alias snd-card-0 snd-intel8x0
    options snd-card-0 index=0
    install snd-intel8x0 /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-intel8x0 &&
    /usr/sbin/alsactl restore >/dev/null 2>&1 || :
    remove snd-intel8x0 { /usr/sbin/alsactl store >/dev/null 2>&1 || : ; };
    /sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove snd-intel8x0

    > apprich@elmstreet apprich $ sudo /sbin/lspci | grep -i audio
    > 00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R)
    > AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02)
    >

    00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801DB/DBL/DBM
    (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 01)

    > apprich@elmstreet apprich $ /sbin/lsmod | grep -i snd
    > snd_intel8x0 35853 5
    > snd_ac97_codec 65169 1 snd_intel8x0
    > snd_pcm_oss 50809 0
    > snd_mixer_oss 20929 2 snd_pcm_oss
    > snd_pcm 89669 3 snd_intel8x0,snd_pcm_oss
    > snd_timer 27077 1 snd_pcm
    > snd_page_alloc 13641 2 snd_intel8x0,snd_pcm
    > gameport 8513 1 snd_intel8x0
    > snd_mpu401_uart 11329 1 snd_intel8x0
    > snd_rawmidi 27109 1 snd_mpu401_uart
    > snd_seq_device 11849 1 snd_rawmidi
    > snd 54821 16
    >
    snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_
    mpu401_uart,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_device
    >
    > soundcore 12961 2 snd
    >

    snd_intel8x0 32865 2
    snd_ac97_codec 67105 1 snd_intel8x0
    snd_pcm_oss 47861 0
    snd_mixer_oss 17089 2 snd_pcm_oss
    snd_pcm 92233 3 snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss
    snd_timer 28357 1 snd_pcm
    snd 52261 8
    snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer
    soundcore 9889 2 snd
    snd_page_alloc 9541 2 snd_intel8x0,snd_pcm

    > Did you check /var/log/messages for error messages?
    >

    The only error message I can see in /var/log/messages (and clear related
    to kernel 2.6.10-1.741 is the following:

    Jan 17 07:24:23 dc4u kernel: PCI: Using ACPI for IRQ routing
    Jan 17 07:24:23 dc4u kernel: ** PCI interrupts are no longer routed
    automatically. If this
    Jan 17 07:24:23 dc4u kernel: ** causes a device to stop working, it is
    probably because the
    Jan 17 07:24:23 dc4u kernel: ** driver failed to call
    pci_enable_device(). As a temporary
    Jan 17 07:24:23 dc4u kernel: ** workaround, the "pci=routeirq" argument
    restores the old
    Jan 17 07:24:23 dc4u kernel: ** behavior. If this argument makes the
    device work again,
    Jan 17 07:24:23 dc4u kernel: ** please email the output of "lspci" to
    bjorn.helgaas@hp.com
    Jan 17 07:24:23 dc4u kernel: ** so I can fix the driver.

    I tried to restart the new kernel with the pci=routeirq argument, but it
    does not work better.

    -- 
    ----------------------------------------------------
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    Message: 4
    Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 02:40:49 -0700
    From: Craig White <craigwhite@azapple.com>
    Subject: Re: Need a complete config walkthrough for Samba/Winbind on
    	RH or	Fedora - samba 3
    To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@redhat.com>
    Message-ID: <1105954849.14517.26.camel@localhost.localdomain>
    Content-Type: text/plain
    On Mon, 2005-01-17 at 01:40, Thomas Cameron wrote:
    > ----- Original Message ----- 
    > From: "Kevin F. Berrien" <kblists@comcast.net>
    > To: "Fedora-list" <fedora-list@redhat.com>
    > Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 7:14 PM
    > Subject: Re: Need a complete config walkthrough for Samba/Winbind on RH or
    > Fedora - samba 3
    > 
    > 
    > > The box I installed the other day ended up being a Windows box, as I 
    > > didn't have time to
    > > dig through the samba tech docs, tinker, and then test.  The windows box
    > > was up in under 2
    > > hours and running.  Not much in the way of progress in terms of having 
    > > choices.
    > 
    > Just curious - how many Windows servers have you set up?  How many Samba 
    > ones?
    > 
    > Do you remember back to your first Windows installation?  Did you know it 
    > inside and out like you do today?  I suspect not.  I suspect that you
    needed 
    > help, advice, maybe professional training.  So how is it Fedora's fault
    that 
    > you need the same in the Linux environment?
    ----
    of course Windows installs most everything and turns most of it on by
    default at startup.
    I can install and configure samba on Linux as easily as I can install
    Windows 2000 server UNTIL I get to ldap. That takes me longer on Linux.
    I definitely prefer BIND and DHCP server on Linux to Windows. Of course,
    speed of install/configure is just one of the considerations. There is
    stability, lifetime cost of ownership, speed, etc. I am certain that a
    Samba server outperforms Windows 2000 server.
    A single provider, single set of tools concept of Windows is a distinct
    advantage. On Linux - I would suggest webmin <http://www.webmin.com>
    As for a 'complete config walkthrough' for Samba/Winbind - I think
    you'll find that at samba.org - Samba by Example
    <http://us4.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-Guide/>
    For someone with a good working knowledge of Windows networking - domain
    setup - accounts, profiles, policies - it's pretty easy.
    Emacs vs. Regedit.exe - I'll take emacs every time. But hey, that's just
    me. I'm sure that some, far more knowledgable than me, would go the
    other way.
    Lastly, knowledge is an investment. Not spending the time to gain
    knowledge is less than what I expect of myself and not only sells myself
    short, but also denies my clients of other, perhaps better
    possibilities.
    Craig
    ------------------------------
    Message: 5
    Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 01:42:34 -0800
    From: Thomas Taylor <linxt@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Saving my panels before upgrade
    To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@redhat.com>
    Message-ID: <200501170142.34370.linxt@comcast.net>
    Content-Type: text/plain;  charset="utf-8"
    On Sunday 16 January 2005 07:51, Philippe wrote:
    > On Sun, 2005-01-16 at 22:24, Michael A. Peters wrote:
    > > On 01/16/2005 05:39:47 AM, Philippe wrote:
    > > > Which files I must save and copy back to my gnome desktop on FC3, so
    > > > I
    > > > will have the same desktop and panels at the end ?
    > >
    > > Fedora Core 3 left my panel configuration the way they were in FC2 and
    > > LFS before that.
    >
    > Not for a fresh new install ;-)
    >
    > Philippe
    > --
    > Philippe, Chiangmai, Thailand
    Hi Philippe:
    If you haven't already done the install, you could create a "home" partition
    if you have enough space on the hard drive.  You would need to use fdisk or 
    some kind of partitioning software to reduce the size of the partition where
    you would create the new partition, then create it as some name other than 
    "/home/xxxx".  Then copy everything from the original "home" to the new one 
    keeping the permissions and ownership as it is.  You would then have to do 
    some name changing:  the original "/home" to something else and the new 
    partition to "/home/xxxx".  That all should be done as root.
    After the copying and renaming is done, you should reboot just to make sure 
    that everything is working as before.  If so, go ahead and do your fresh 
    install but DON'T reformat the "/home" partition.
    Tom
    -- 
    Tom Taylor 
    Registered linux user #263467
    ------------------------------
    Message: 6
    Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 10:45:20 +0100 (CET)
    From: hicham <hichamlinux@yahoo.fr>
    Subject: java developpers under FC3 ?
    To: fedora-list@redhat.com
    Message-ID: <20050117094520.68781.qmail@web21428.mail.yahoo.com>
    Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
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    Message: 7
    Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 04:52:49 -0500
    From: Gene Heskett <gene.heskett@verizon.net>
    Subject: Re: xmms chinese
    To: fedora-list@redhat.com
    Cc: Michael Lee <mic_kklee@yahoo.com.hk>
    Message-ID: <200501170452.49518.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
    Content-Type: text/plain;  charset="us-ascii"
    On Sunday 16 January 2005 10:17, Michael Lee wrote:
    >How can I see chinese in the playlist of xmms ?
    Are you running the 'canna' server?  I believe thats what displays the 
    oriental stuff here.  I cannot read it of course, but it does 
    display.
    -- 
    Cheers, Gene
    "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
     soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
    -Ed Howdershelt (Author)
    99.32% setiathome rank, not too shabby for a WV hillbilly
    Yahoo.com attorneys please note, additions to this message
    by Gene Heskett are:
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    Message: 8
    Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 11:00:59 +0100
    From: Alexander Apprich <a.apprich@science-computing.de>
    Subject: Re: FC3 and soundcard
    To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@redhat.com>
    Message-ID: <41EB8CDB.5080702@science-computing.de>
    Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
    Didier Cassereau wrote:
    > Alexander Apprich wrote:
    > 
    >> Didier Cassereau wrote:
    >>
    >>> Hello everybody,
    >>>
    >>> I use FC3 + kernel 2.6.9-1.724_FC3smp ; the sound card is identified 
    >>> without problems and sound works fine.
    >>>
    >>> I tried with kernel 2.6.10-1.737_FC3smp ; the auto detection of the 
    >>> sound card works and yields the same as with kernel 
    >>> 2.6.9-1.724_FC3smp. But sound does not work !
    >>> I have the same problem with kernel 2.6.10-1.741_FC3smp.
    >>>
    >>> Does somebody have an idea or a suggestion ?
    >>>
    >>> Also I never could listen an audio CD ; the CD is read and the tracks 
    >>> are listed correctly, but no sound.
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> Okay, what soundcard do you have? What modules were loaded with kernel
    >> 2.6.9-1.724_FC3smp? Did you check /etc/modprobe.conf?
    >>
    >> apprich@elmstreet apprich $ grep snd /etc/modprobe.conf
    >> alias snd-card-0 snd-intel8x0
    >> options snd-card-0 index=0
    >> install snd-intel8x0 /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-intel8x0 && 
    >> /usr/sbin/alsactl restore >/dev/null 2>&1 || :
    >> remove snd-intel8x0 { /usr/sbin/alsactl store >/dev/null 2>&1 || : ; 
    >> }; /sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove snd-intel8x0
    >>
    > 
    > My /etc/modprobe.conf is exactly the same:
    > alias snd-card-0 snd-intel8x0
    > options snd-card-0 index=0
    > install snd-intel8x0 /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-intel8x0 && 
    > /usr/sbin/alsactl restore >/dev/null 2>&1 || :
    > remove snd-intel8x0 { /usr/sbin/alsactl store >/dev/null 2>&1 || : ; }; 
    > /sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove snd-intel8x0
    > 
    >> apprich@elmstreet apprich $ sudo /sbin/lspci | grep -i audio
    >> 00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB/ER 
    >> (ICH5/ICH5R) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02)
    >>
    > 
    > 00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801DB/DBL/DBM 
    > (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 01)
    > 
    >> apprich@elmstreet apprich $ /sbin/lsmod | grep -i snd
    >> snd_intel8x0           35853  5
    >> snd_ac97_codec         65169  1 snd_intel8x0
    >> snd_pcm_oss            50809  0
    >> snd_mixer_oss          20929  2 snd_pcm_oss
    >> snd_pcm                89669  3 snd_intel8x0,snd_pcm_oss
    >> snd_timer              27077  1 snd_pcm
    >> snd_page_alloc         13641  2 snd_intel8x0,snd_pcm
    >> gameport                8513  1 snd_intel8x0
    >> snd_mpu401_uart        11329  1 snd_intel8x0
    >> snd_rawmidi            27109  1 snd_mpu401_uart
    >> snd_seq_device         11849  1 snd_rawmidi
    >> snd                    54821  16 
    >>
    snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_
    mpu401_uart,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_device 
    >>
    >> soundcore              12961  2 snd
    >>
    > 
    > snd_intel8x0           32865  2
    > snd_ac97_codec         67105  1 snd_intel8x0
    > snd_pcm_oss            47861  0
    > snd_mixer_oss          17089  2 snd_pcm_oss
    > snd_pcm                92233  3 snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss
    > snd_timer              28357  1 snd_pcm
    > snd                    52261  8 
    > snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer
    > soundcore               9889  2 snd
    > snd_page_alloc          9541  2 snd_intel8x0,snd_pcm
    > 
    >> Did you check /var/log/messages for error messages?
    >>
    > 
    > The only error message I can see in /var/log/messages (and clear related 
    > to kernel 2.6.10-1.741 is the following:
    > 
    > Jan 17 07:24:23 dc4u kernel: PCI: Using ACPI for IRQ routing
    > Jan 17 07:24:23 dc4u kernel: ** PCI interrupts are no longer routed 
    > automatically.  If this
    > Jan 17 07:24:23 dc4u kernel: ** causes a device to stop working, it is 
    > probably because the
    > Jan 17 07:24:23 dc4u kernel: ** driver failed to call 
    > pci_enable_device().  As a temporary
    > Jan 17 07:24:23 dc4u kernel: ** workaround, the "pci=routeirq" argument 
    > restores the old
    > Jan 17 07:24:23 dc4u kernel: ** behavior.  If this argument makes the 
    > device work again,
    > Jan 17 07:24:23 dc4u kernel: ** please email the output of "lspci" to 
    > bjorn.helgaas@hp.com
    > Jan 17 07:24:23 dc4u kernel: ** so I can fix the driver.
    > 
    > I tried to restart the new kernel with the pci=routeirq argument, but it 
    > does not work better.
    > 
    Hmmm, could you also try booting with
       acpi=off
    instead of
       pci=routeirq
    Did you try reconfiguring your soundcard using system-config-soundcard?
    With the old kernel does your soundcard still work? Could you compare
    the output from the old and the new kernel?
    Alex
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    Message: 9
    Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 10:05:48 +0000
    From: Paul Howarth <paul@city-fan.org>
    Subject: Re: Why do I need mDNSResponder/howl?
    To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@redhat.com>
    Message-ID: <41EB8DFC.6020802@city-fan.org>
    Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
    Randy wrote:
    > It took me two days to figure out why my firewall began broadcasting 
    > packets so fast that the network came to a halt, EVERY time I rebooted 
    > my new linux server.  mDNSResponder was the problem.  My network was 
    > ALREADY set up with DNS, DHCP, etc.  Everything was ALREADY automatic.  
    > In fact, the new fedora box WAS the DHCP and DNS server.  It had a fixed 
    > IP.  Why was it running mDNSResponder?  For me, this wasn't "plug & 
    > play".  It was "What the @^%#@! is going on with the router!  It can't 
    > be the Fedora server, because Fedora distributions have never caused 
    > problems!"
    Strange; I have a Fedora box running DHCP, DNS etc. and didn't see a 
    broadcast storm (though I did turn off mDNSResponder soon after 
    installation as an unneeded service). I'd have though these things would 
    be designed to co-exist peacefully with the ubiqitous DHCP etc.
    Paul.
    ------------------------------
    Message: 10
    Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 15:47:19 +0530
    From: Rahul Sundaram <rahulsundaram@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Why do I need mDNSResponder/howl?
    To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@redhat.com>
    Message-ID: <c79487d60501170217a10eeb8@mail.gmail.com>
    Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
    Hi
    > 
    > Strange; I have a Fedora box running DHCP, DNS etc. and didn't see a
    > broadcast storm (though I did turn off mDNSResponder soon after
    > installation as an unneeded service). I'd have though these things would
    > be designed to co-exist peacefully with the ubiqitous DHCP etc.
    > 
    just FYI : dhcp works fine with mdns here
    -- 
    Regards,
    Rahul Sundaram
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    Message: 11
    Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 11:18:14 +0100
    From: Tibor-Attila ANCA <anca.tibor@gmx.de>
    Subject: Livna.org
    To: Fedora Core Users <fedora-list@redhat.com>
    Message-ID: <20050117101814.GA4573@tibor.fedora-home.org>
    Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
    Hi list,
    what happened to rpm.livna.org? Since days I am trying to apt-get
    update, but the server response is allways timing out. Is the server
    down, or do I have to change something in my config?
    Thanks,
    -- 
    Tibor Attila ANCA
    <anca.tibor@gmx.de>
    (please, no HTML eMails!)
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    Message: 12
    Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 02:25:02 -0800
    From: Kam Leo <kam.leo@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: How to see number of pci-slots
    To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@redhat.com>
    Message-ID: <f84880b005011702257887d256@mail.gmail.com>
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    On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 10:01:16 +0100, Alexander Apprich
    <a.apprich@science-computing.de> wrote:
    > 
    > 
    > Roger Grosswiler wrote:
    > > Alexander Apprich schrieb:
    > >
    > >> Roger Grosswiler wrote:
    > >>
    > >>> Hi,
    > >>>
    > >>> I would like to see all pci-slots on a system via shell, not only the
    > >>> used slots.
    > >>>
    > >>> How can i do that?
    > >>
    > >>
    > >>
    > >> dmidecode should do the job.
    > >>
    > >> http://www.nongnu.org/dmidecode/
    > >>
    > >>
    > >>>
    > >>> Thx,
    > >>> Roger
    > >>>
    > >>
    > >> Alex
    > >>
    > > Hi Alex,
    > >
    > > Thanks a lot, nice to see you alive ;-)
    > 
    > to be a lil more specific
    > 
    >     apprich@elmstreet bin $ sudo dmidecode | grep PCI | wc -l
    >     6
    > 
    > >
    > > Roger
    > >
    > 
    > Alex
    > 
    Is the result correct?  Here's what I get on my system with an ASUS
    SP97-V motherboard:
    # dmidecode | grep PCI | wc -l
    9
    No way is that correct.  I had to change the filter for grep to get
    the correct count.
    # dmidecode | grep "PCI Slot" | wc -l
    4
    So even if I changed the filter to "Slot"  the results would not be
    that useful.  The ASUS SP97-V MB has 4 PCI and 3 ISA slots, but only 6
    openings.  One opening is shared.  The information dmidecode provides
    is useful but incomplete.  dmicode cannot determine if an ISA slot is
    occupied.  Even if you have a new motherboard with all PCI slots the
    data provided would not tell you that an installed card is oversize
    and requires an adjacent slot or that an opening is used for an I/O
    panel.  You are still going to need to use keep track of what is
    installed.
    ------------------------------
    Message: 13
    Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 11:25:33 +0100
    From: Didier Cassereau <didier.cassereau@espci.fr>
    Subject: Re: FC3 and soundcard
    To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@redhat.com>
    Message-ID: <41EB929D.2040505@espci.fr>
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    Alexander Apprich wrote:
    > 
    > Didier Cassereau wrote:
    > 
    >> Alexander Apprich wrote:
    >>
    >>> Didier Cassereau wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> Hello everybody,
    >>>>
    >>>> I use FC3 + kernel 2.6.9-1.724_FC3smp ; the sound card is identified 
    >>>> without problems and sound works fine.
    >>>>
    >>>> I tried with kernel 2.6.10-1.737_FC3smp ; the auto detection of the 
    >>>> sound card works and yields the same as with kernel 
    >>>> 2.6.9-1.724_FC3smp. But sound does not work !
    >>>> I have the same problem with kernel 2.6.10-1.741_FC3smp.
    >>>>
    >>>> Does somebody have an idea or a suggestion ?
    >>>>
    >>>> Also I never could listen an audio CD ; the CD is read and the 
    >>>> tracks are listed correctly, but no sound.
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> Okay, what soundcard do you have? What modules were loaded with kernel
    >>> 2.6.9-1.724_FC3smp? Did you check /etc/modprobe.conf?
    >>>
    >>> apprich@elmstreet apprich $ grep snd /etc/modprobe.conf
    >>> alias snd-card-0 snd-intel8x0
    >>> options snd-card-0 index=0
    >>> install snd-intel8x0 /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-intel8x0 && 
    >>> /usr/sbin/alsactl restore >/dev/null 2>&1 || :
    >>> remove snd-intel8x0 { /usr/sbin/alsactl store >/dev/null 2>&1 || : ; 
    >>> }; /sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove snd-intel8x0
    >>>
    >>
    >> My /etc/modprobe.conf is exactly the same:
    >> alias snd-card-0 snd-intel8x0
    >> options snd-card-0 index=0
    >> install snd-intel8x0 /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-intel8x0 && 
    >> /usr/sbin/alsactl restore >/dev/null 2>&1 || :
    >> remove snd-intel8x0 { /usr/sbin/alsactl store >/dev/null 2>&1 || : ; 
    >> }; /sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove snd-intel8x0
    >>
    >>> apprich@elmstreet apprich $ sudo /sbin/lspci | grep -i audio
    >>> 00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB/ER 
    >>> (ICH5/ICH5R) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02)
    >>>
    >>
    >> 00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801DB/DBL/DBM 
    >> (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 01)
    >>
    >>> apprich@elmstreet apprich $ /sbin/lsmod | grep -i snd
    >>> snd_intel8x0           35853  5
    >>> snd_ac97_codec         65169  1 snd_intel8x0
    >>> snd_pcm_oss            50809  0
    >>> snd_mixer_oss          20929  2 snd_pcm_oss
    >>> snd_pcm                89669  3 snd_intel8x0,snd_pcm_oss
    >>> snd_timer              27077  1 snd_pcm
    >>> snd_page_alloc         13641  2 snd_intel8x0,snd_pcm
    >>> gameport                8513  1 snd_intel8x0
    >>> snd_mpu401_uart        11329  1 snd_intel8x0
    >>> snd_rawmidi            27109  1 snd_mpu401_uart
    >>> snd_seq_device         11849  1 snd_rawmidi
    >>> snd                    54821  16 
    >>>
    snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_
    mpu401_uart,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_device 
    >>>
    >>> soundcore              12961  2 snd
    >>>
    >>
    >> snd_intel8x0           32865  2
    >> snd_ac97_codec         67105  1 snd_intel8x0
    >> snd_pcm_oss            47861  0
    >> snd_mixer_oss          17089  2 snd_pcm_oss
    >> snd_pcm                92233  3 snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss
    >> snd_timer              28357  1 snd_pcm
    >> snd                    52261  8 
    >> snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer
    >> soundcore               9889  2 snd
    >> snd_page_alloc          9541  2 snd_intel8x0,snd_pcm
    >>
    >>> Did you check /var/log/messages for error messages?
    >>>
    >>
    >> The only error message I can see in /var/log/messages (and clear 
    >> related to kernel 2.6.10-1.741 is the following:
    >>
    >> Jan 17 07:24:23 dc4u kernel: PCI: Using ACPI for IRQ routing
    >> Jan 17 07:24:23 dc4u kernel: ** PCI interrupts are no longer routed 
    >> automatically.  If this
    >> Jan 17 07:24:23 dc4u kernel: ** causes a device to stop working, it is 
    >> probably because the
    >> Jan 17 07:24:23 dc4u kernel: ** driver failed to call 
    >> pci_enable_device().  As a temporary
    >> Jan 17 07:24:23 dc4u kernel: ** workaround, the "pci=routeirq" 
    >> argument restores the old
    >> Jan 17 07:24:23 dc4u kernel: ** behavior.  If this argument makes the 
    >> device work again,
    >> Jan 17 07:24:23 dc4u kernel: ** please email the output of "lspci" to 
    >> bjorn.helgaas@hp.com
    >> Jan 17 07:24:23 dc4u kernel: ** so I can fix the driver.
    >>
    >> I tried to restart the new kernel with the pci=routeirq argument, but 
    >> it does not work better.
    >>
    > Hmmm, could you also try booting with
    > 
    >   acpi=off
    > 
    > instead of
    > 
    >   pci=routeirq
    > 
    acpi=off does not help.
    The sound card works ok with kernel 724, but no sound with kernel 741.
    > Did you try reconfiguring your soundcard using system-config-soundcard?
    Yes ; I do not see any particular error message.
    The identification of the sound card is correct. The only problem is 
    that ... i just do hear the so beautiful test sound !
    > With the old kernel does your soundcard still work? 
    Yes, no problem !
    > Could you compare
    > the output from the old and the new kernel?
    > 
    I do not see any significant difference concerning the sound card. You 
    can have a look at the corresponding sections of /var/log/messages:
    When I start kernel 2.6.9-1.724_FC3:
    	http://www.loa.espci.fr/724.log
    When I start kernel 2.6.9-1.741_FC3:
    	http://www.loa.espci.fr/741.log
    -- 
    ----------------------------------------------------
    Didier CASSEREAU
    ------------------------------
    Message: 14
    Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 11:34:48 +0100 (CET)
    From: hicham <hichamlinux@yahoo.fr>
    Subject: java developpers under FC3 ?
    To: fedora-list@redhat.com
    Message-ID: <20050117103448.21463.qmail@web21423.mail.yahoo.com>
    Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
    Hello 
     this just may be a stupide question , I'm just
    curious to know if there are java developper under FC3
    ? which IDE are you using ? How much successfull you
    are ? 
    thanks
    	
    	
    		
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    Message: 15
    Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 11:56:57 +0100
    From: Duncan Lithgow <duncan@lithgow-schmidt.dk>
    Subject: epson printer maintenance utility
    To: fedora-list@redhat.com
    Message-ID: <41EB99F9.8020606@lithgow-schmidt.dk>
    Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
    I can't find a printer maintenance utility for my epson cx3200. I've 
    just tried escputil but it doesn't seem to do anything for me.
    Any ideas?
    Duncan
    ---
    My list of unresolved issues in fc3
    * get a printer maintenance utility for printer under cups in fc3
    * get java working in fc3
    * get recognition of danish characters in filenames on fc3.
    * get thunderbird address book working in both os's (fc3 and winxp)
    * share profile in firefox across os's (got bookmarks working - is that 
    it?)
    * get explorer running with wine, check for netbanking.
    ------------------------------
    Message: 16
    Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 12:01:55 +0100
    From: Alexander Apprich <a.apprich@science-computing.de>
    Subject: Re: How to see number of pci-slots
    To: Kam Leo <kam.leo@gmail.com>,	For users of Fedora Core releases
    	<fedora-list@redhat.com>
    Message-ID: <41EB9B23.60204@science-computing.de>
    Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
    Kam Leo wrote:
    > On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 10:01:16 +0100, Alexander Apprich
    > <a.apprich@science-computing.de> wrote:
    > 
    >>
    >>Roger Grosswiler wrote:
    >>
    >>>Alexander Apprich schrieb:
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>>Roger Grosswiler wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>>Hi,
    >>>>>
    >>>>>I would like to see all pci-slots on a system via shell, not only the
    >>>>>used slots.
    >>>>>
    >>>>>How can i do that?
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>dmidecode should do the job.
    >>>>
    >>>>http://www.nongnu.org/dmidecode/
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>>Thx,
    >>>>>Roger
    >>>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>Alex
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>>Hi Alex,
    >>>
    >>>Thanks a lot, nice to see you alive ;-)
    >>
    >>to be a lil more specific
    >>
    >>    apprich@elmstreet bin $ sudo dmidecode | grep PCI | wc -l
    >>    6
    >>
    >>
    >>>Roger
    >>>
    >>
    >>Alex
    >>
    > 
    > 
    > Is the result correct?  Here's what I get on my system with an ASUS
    > SP97-V motherboard:
    > 
    > # dmidecode | grep PCI | wc -l
    > 9
    > 
    > No way is that correct.  I had to change the filter for grep to get
    > the correct count.
    > 
    > # dmidecode | grep "PCI Slot" | wc -l
    > 4
    > 
    well, you're (partially) right. It depends on the version of dmidecode.
    In my case dmidecode was right. With a "newer" version
        root@elmstreet / # dmidecode | grep PCI | wc -l
        7
        root@elmstreet / # dmidecode | grep PCI
                             PCI is supported
                     Type: 32-bit PCI
                     Type: 32-bit PCI
                     Type: 32-bit PCI
                     Type: 32-bit PCI
                     Type: 32-bit PCI
                     Type: 32-bit PCI
    With the version you have it's obviously somthing different.
    > So even if I changed the filter to "Slot"  the results would not be
    > that useful.  The ASUS SP97-V MB has 4 PCI and 3 ISA slots, but only 6
    > openings.  One opening is shared.  The information dmidecode provides
    > is useful but incomplete.  dmicode cannot determine if an ISA slot is
    > occupied.  Even if you have a new motherboard with all PCI slots the
    > data provided would not tell you that an installed card is oversize
    > and requires an adjacent slot or that an opening is used for an I/O
    > panel.  You are still going to need to use keep track of what is
    > installed.
    > 
    What is the output of dmidecode on your system. Could you send me
    the output (maybe off-list)?
    Alex
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