Let us call this something else. {formally Fedora 3 sucks)

akonstam_at_trinity.edu
Date: 02/06/05

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    Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2005 08:14:37 -0600
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    This is essentially what I said and the pst I was replying to:
    > I don't support name calling, but you did do it first ("FC3 Sucks" is
    > the equivelent of calling everyone on this list a bad name, as we're all
    > involved in some manner with the development of FC3). That doesn't
    > neccessarily make it okay for thomas to unleash the language like that,
    > but you've done nothing but present problems that aren't related to
    > Fedora CORE 3 as if they're bugs in the way FC3 is put together and
    > functions. Gnome is NOT developed by the FC3 developers, it is an
    > optional package that you may choose to install when you are installing
    > FC3. VirtualPC is NOT developed by the FC3 developers. Java is NOT
    > developed by the FC3 developers.
    >
    The above statement remind me of a joke of a lost helicopter pilot who
    asks a person in the window of a building, "Where am I?" The answer he
    received was, "In a helicopter". He know knew where he was. He was
    outside the Microsoft building because the answer was correct but did
    not really speak to his real problem.

    Fedora is a collection of software packaged as a unit and distributed
    by Fedora (who I claim is really a subgroup of RedHat). They chose
    what to include and what to not include. Sure someone with experience
    can choose which of the included software not to install so his needs
    are best met. But one of our goals as a Linux community is to convince people
    that Linux offers an viable alternative to that other choice.
    To posit that everything that is part of the distribution that was not
    actually written by the Fedora developers (which includes the kernels)
    can not be discussed or criticized is a slippery slope.

    We may be all involved in Fedora Development in some way but not in
    the same way. There are some that are more equal than others. It is my
    position that any program that is distributed on the CD-s of a Fedora
    distribution is fair game to be discussed on the list both positively
    and negatively.
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