Re: Subject: Re: Linux sucks?

From: Tor Harald Thorland (linux_at_strigen.com)
Date: 02/15/05

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    Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 22:15:58 +0100
To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@redhat.com>

    Eric Vought wrote:

    >
    > On Feb 14, 2005, at 5:17 PM, fedora-list-request@redhat.com wrote:
    >
    >> From: Manu Schnetzler <marsu@earthling.net>
    >> Date: February 14, 2005 5:17:25 PM CST
    >> To: fedora-list@redhat.com
    >> Subject: Re: Linux sucks?
    >> Reply-To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@redhat.com>
    >>
    >>
    >> I know I might be setting myself up to be thoroughly flamed, but I
    >> thought I'd share my experience anyway and request some advice.
    >>
    >> I am using Windows and there is no way I can avoid it, because most
    >> of the applications I run in my field do not run on Linux. But some
    >> do, and I thought setting up a dual boot machine would be nice, and
    >> quite frankly I've always liked Unix and don't like Microsoft much (I
    >> tend to like the David side of things in general), so anything I
    >> could do another way would be great. By the way, I am not a beginner
    >> when it comes to Unix/shells and such. In fact, I have cygwin on
    >> Windows because I like the tools.
    >>
    >> So there we go: FC3 installed fairly easily. Now how do I set up my
    >> dual head on here? Well that didn't go too well. There's a bug in
    >> FC3, so I had to apply a patch. It went a bit further but it still
    >> doesn't work: can't get the second monitor to be recognized. After
    >> letting system-config-display rewrite my xorg.conf, it is not booting
    >> anymore, so I have to get back in non-graphical mode and reset the
    >> old xorg.conf. At this point, I have spent probably 6 hours setting
    >> up my machine and looking for info on the web.
    >>
    >> Next thing, GRUB hangs and it takes me a few more hours of trying
    >> several things, and I end up having to re-install FC3. I haven't
    >> booted Linux since then...
    >>
    >> I know I won't make any friends here, but here's my conclusion. Linux
    >> is not ready. For someone like me who doesn't have days to waste on
    >> configuration and trying to solve issues, we'll have to stick with
    >> Windows. And I know I will get the usual "but Windows crashes all the
    >> time" and such. Well XP has been good to me so far - I can't remember
    >> a major crash, so that argument doesn't stand anymore. Maybe back in
    >> the days of NT, but not today.
    >>
    >> I'd love Linux to work, I really do. I'd love to ditch Windows and
    >> put a Tux sticker on my PC, but I can't depend on it for my work, so
    >> I won't. I hope I won't simply get flames telling me that I'm too
    >> stupid to get past the problems I face. It would be more interesting
    >> to receive some advice: should I try Red Hat and pay for support?
    >> Wait another 5 years? Should I spend another 10 hours trying to get
    >> FC3 to work for me? Is it worth my time, or will I face some other
    >> problem once/if I get my dual head to work?
    >
    >
    > Instead, XP users hit this when they add hardware and the 'automatic
    > detection' goes to work. Good examples are the 3Com cards that have
    > you put a CD in *before* installing the hardware so that the hardware
    > detection can be tweaked or disabled. This wreaks havoc on a reinstall
    > because you end up physically pulling hardware out of the box and
    > trying to put it back in the right order in order to avoid the plug
    > and play from killing the install. On Linux, the cards just work.
    >
    >
    >
    >
    A little funny issue from me too,,,
    Did a webupdate from microsoft on a computer running XP Home yesterday,
    and it did a "upgrade" on a mouse driver (from the microsoft site)
    The update needed a restart, and when I pressed the OK button the PC
    went to the "blue screen". When I rebooted it, it went fine until the XP
    logo showed up, then the computer restarted by it self. And restarted
    and restarted.
    I tryed the "last working setup" from the "rescue screen".... And it
    didn't work either
    In the end I had to reinstall!!

    2 days ago, did a fedora core 3 install, perfect except for one little
    option for my Radeon card.

    THT 

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