Re: Playing DVDs using totem?
From: Vinicius (cviniciusm_at_terra.com.br)
Date: 05/08/05
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To: fedora-list@redhat.com Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 20:41:04 -0300
Antonio Olivares escreveu:
> --- Toralf Lund <toralf@procaptura.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Marcel Janssen wrote:
>>
>>
>>>On Saturday 07 May 2005 11:12, Toralf Lund wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>This has probably been discussed before, but is
>>
>>anyone actually using
>>
>>>>totem to play DVDs these days? I've tried variants
>>
>>from various distros
>>
>>>>and installed every gstreamer plugin I can think
>>
>>of, but it still won't
>>
>>>>work. Originally, it wouldn't recognise DVDs at
>>
>>all, of course, now it
>>
>>>>will either crash or give messages like
>
>
> Others in list have reported sucess with Totem. You
> just need certain packages and it will work. If I
> remember correctly something like gstreamer???? and
> other plugins will make it work.
>
>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>Do you mean you installed binary packages from
>>
>>other distros ? If so -> bad
>>
>>>idea to begin with. Crashes will be very likely.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Bad choice of words, there. I meant "various
>>distros" as in "Fedora Core
>>and different 3rd-party distributions of packages
>>built specifically for
>>Fedora".
>>
>>
>>>I've tried totem, but I don't understand the UI.
>>
>>Play disc will not play the
>>
>>>disc, so to my opinion it fails it's function ;-)
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Calling that an UI problem is definitely stretching
>>things. When the
>>function associated with an UI item doesn't work,
>>I'd say that the
>>function is faulty, not the UI. But perhaps your
>>remarks wasn't meant
>>too seriously...
>>
>>Anyhow, Totem or any other media player installed
>>with Fedora Core
>>certainly won't play DVDs out-of-the box.
>>Apparently, Fedora/Red Hat
>>dare not distribute the somewhat controversial code
>>needed to do the job
>>along with the OS...
>
>
> Disregard this part. Fedora will go with open
> standards and the controversial code. Go and snatch
> the needed downloads to get the applications and
> codecs that you want for it to play. At one point I
> disregarded Fedora for this reason, but the one
> missing out on a great OS was me. I tried installing
> the missing parts and now it works great for me.
>
>
>>>Also, many options that xine-ui has I miss in
>>
>>totem.
>>
>>Those seem to be options I don't need and don't
>>want, and they tend to
>>get in my way when I try to find what I do need...
>>
>>
>>>xine-ui may not be the
>>>nicest UI, but it can do the job which is most
>>
>>important I think.
>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Of course... But when I've tried it, I've been left
>>with the feeling
>>that it didn't get the work done because I had to
>>struggle too much with
>>the GUI - not only because I found it hard to
>>understand, but also
>>because it just wouldn't work some of the time - and
>>the whole
>>application seemed somewhat unstable.
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>And, no, I don't think I want to use xine or
>>
>>mplayer or whatever
>>
>>>>instead. I think they all have pretty lousy UIs,
>>
>>and mplayer in
>>
>>>>particular has also proven to be rather
>>
>>unreliable.
>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>About the UI you can do something. There are many
>>
>>frontends to xine like
>>
>>>kaffeine or gxine.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Yes. Or I may even use Totem with Xine as a
>>backend...
>>
>>
>>>Suggest using kaffeine
>>>
>>
>>Maybe I'll give it a try...
>>
>>
>>>Worked straight away to play DVD for me and has all
>>
>>>the necessary functions for me to support
>>
>>multimedia.
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>I know one
>>>>application that generally just works most of the
>>
>>time, though: It's
>>
>>>>Ogle (http://www.dtek.chalmers.se/~dvd/) Some of
>>
>>its features are
>>
>>>>incomplete, however, and it seems like there
>>
>>hasn't been a lot of
>>
>>>>development lately, and I've come across one DVD
>>
>>it won't play, so I
>>
>>>>thought I might try something else...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>Another application is vlc
>>
>>(http://www.videolan.org/vlc)
>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>I've tried that one, and yes, while it also has some
>>dialogs and menu
>>items that are rather cryptic, the UI is not that
>>bad. However, I'm
>>struggling a bit to get it to play the actual film
>>or display the root
>>menu; it seems inclined to start showing me some of
>>the "special
>>features" or whatever whenever I open a disk.
>>
>>
>>>If you install any of these, please use yum or apt
>>
>>so that at least you're
>>
>>>sure that your not working with broken packages. It
>>
>>really saves you a lot of
>>
>>>hassle in the end.
>>>
>>
>>Yes.
>>
>>Meanwhile, I'm still inclined to conclude that Ogle
>>is still the player
>>closest to Just Working, but unfortunately, it seems
>>like there are too
>>few developers involved in the project. Maybe I'll
>>start a flame war by
>>saying this, but I generally think that it would be
>>a lot more
>>productive if the people behind some of the video
>>players would stop
>>developing their own software, and start
>>contributing to other
>>applications instead. There has probably been far
>>too much duplicate
>>work in this area.
>>
>>- Toralf
>>
>>
>>
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>
>
> Sorry to add to tbe discussion, but I have a few
> remarks to add, I have both xine, and MPlayer on my
> pcs and I don't have any problems. Most Dvd's play
> without a hiccup.
>
> There are the frontends for xine
> http://xinehq.de/index.php/download
> I can't complain about the frontend for xine the
> xine-ui might not be the best but it works!
>
> To install xine I obtain the rpms from
> http://cambuca.ldhs.cetuc.puc-rio.br/xine/.
> I follow almost all the instructions there. you can
> get RealPlayer and install the w32codecs to play
> windows media/quicktime and other formats.
>
> As for MPlayer, you can install kplayer which is a
> nice frontend for MPlayer.
>
> I have no complains as both players work for me and as
> far as ogle is concerned, it never worked for me. I
> tried it in Mandrake, and Fedora Core 2 and 3 and it
> did not work. They say it is real good, but it never
> worked for me. So I can't rate it.
>
> Regards,
>
> Antonio
>
I can play non-encrypted DVD's with no problem.
IMO, Totem is great!
Cheers,
Vinicius.
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